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...it was the night of the point guard. And nothing captivated the audience at the WaMu like the Wolves selecting Flynn and then Ricky Rubio. Do yourself a favor and read the account of Rubio's back stage journey from freedarko.com, one that he wasn't too excited about.

"...It?s time for Ricky to make the phone call. We all hunch over at the table as he dials. The timid kid looks in my general direction as the conversation unfolds. Rubio damns with feint praise.

?I hear Al Jay-fer-sohn es um?guuudeee??

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Was sent an article by my boy Drew written by Chad Ford where he talks about General Managers and executives' take on prospects and highlighting Brandon Jennings.
"...In early June, there was anything but a consensus on what kind of NBA player he'd become, and NBA executives and scouts traveling to the Reebok Eurocamp were furious that Jennings was a last-minute scratch.

According to one veteran general manager:

"We all came to see whether this kid can really play. I'd heard the hype, watched the video and heard various opinions from my scouts. I wanted to see how he stacked up against other top kids his age. Then he doesn't show. He sure isn't making this easy on us. You want to like the kid, but he ain't giving you a lot to go on..."The Grizzlies (2nd), Thunder (3rd), Warriors (7th) and Raptors (9th) weren't really in the hunt for a point guard. The Kings (4th) had ruled out Jennings after a shaky workout and were deciding between Tyreke Evans and Ricky Rubio. The Wolves (5th and 6th) were considering Jennings, but he was behind Jonny Flynn, Ricky Rubio and Stephen Curry on their board. The Knicks were set on taking Curry or Jordan Hill, whoever was left.

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Kudos to Pete Vecsey for flat-out asking Donnie Walsh his preference between Ricky Rubio and Stephen Curry in terms of who he would have drafted had the opportunity presented itself. It was something Alan Hahn has been telling us for some time.
"..."Curry," Walsh answered when asked whether he would have taken Stephen Curry or Ricky Rubio. "Not only is he a great shooter but he can get his shot on anyone. Opponents look at his baby face and figure they can manhandle him. Meanwhile he tore up every top-rated guard he went up against at our workout, including Tyreke Evans, who might be the best player in the draft next to Blake Griffin..."
Interesting that Curry would be the pick over Rubio in my opinion based on the fact that Rubio seems to fit D'Antoni's style a little better. Granted, I liked Curry as a facilitator and shot maker given space, but I thought Walsh for sure was targeting Rubio and heard several things of the like.

That being said, Walsh didn't aggressively move in on Curry or move up one spot to take him at #7, which makes me wonder just how much in love they were with him. And judging from what's coming out of Golden State, Curry isn't a great fit with teammate Monta Ellis.

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Update: Source tells me that it's more Donnie Diligence, in terms of the delay, than trying to make a roster move, although that could happen soon after the offer sheet. The way the deal will be structured will ensure the Bucks don't match. I really still can't believe that part.

Via Hahn's Tweet: "What I have been told is the Knicks want Sessions and they will eventually get him. The price remains TBD. 13 minutes ago..."

Just had an interesting and long conversation with a former Eastern Conference scout who told me that he doesn't think Ramon Sessions is the right fit for Mike D'Antoni's pick and roll offense.

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According to the Pioneer Press, Rick Rubio is prepared to stay overseas, making the choice of drafting Jonny Flynn a huge mistake for David Kahn.

The report was that Rubio was content with the Wolves for about 4 minutes until the drafted Flynn, leading to Rubio's disgust with Minnesota.

"...The Minnesota Timberwolves' top draft pick, Ricky Rubio, 18, will remain in Spain to play for his DKV Joventut basketball team for the remaining two years of his contract rather than try to move to the NBA this season, El Periodico reported today. The Barcelona newspaper also says Rubio, who was paid $97,000 last season, plans to withdraw his contract lawsuit against DKV Joventut..."
So let's see, Rubio is going to stay with his old team? This smells like yet another play for Rubio. Dropping the lawsuit is an interesting turn of events and one that I am shocked at.? How could the Wolves NOT try him soon and get for him while his value is so high? How can they let him sit overseas?
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Two things of note this morning:

  • Via the Minnesota Star Tribune is reporting that the Knicks did offer Chandler and 8 to move up for Rubio and the Wolves declined. Why on earth would the Wolves would decline, I have no idea. They also noted that the Knicks had Rubio on top of their list ahead of Curry, which we figured all along.
"... The Wolves did turn down that Knicks? offer of No. 8 and Wilson Chandler for the No. 5, which Donnie Walsh would have used to take Rubio and not Stephen Curry..."
"...Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News reported that the Wolves turned down a deal with the Houston Rockets that would have resulted in Aaron Brooks and Shane Battier headed to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio..."
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Finger point to Alvino's boy natesbury126

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Kudos to Hahn for adding clarity to the Lee and Nate situations:

"...The Knicks can entertain sign-and-trade discussions involving both Lee and Robinson on July 9, after the seven-day moratorium. There is expected to be a strong market for Lee, who led the NBA with 62 double-doubles, and there are teams with cap space that have an interest. The Pistons could attempt to sign him to an offer sheet if they do not go after Carlos Boozer and the Trail Blazers are also said to be in hot pursuit, but more likely in a sign-and-trade scenario.

For the Knicks to keep him, Lee and his agent, Mark Bartelstein, would likely have to agree to a back-loaded deal to protect the cap space in 2010. Walsh would also have to first find a way to move either Eddy Curry ($11.2 million against the cap in 2010-11) or Jared Jeffries ($6.8 million) off the roster to offset Lee?s contract, which could command up to $8 million per year or more. Consider the range of these comparables: Troy Murphy ($11 million), Andris Biedrins ($9 million) and Udonis Haslem ($7.1 million)..."

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Had the chance to chat up foxsports.com's Pete Schrager at the draft the other night, as we were posted up right next to each other and all of us kind of scratched our head at James Harden's getup after he went 3rd to OKC. Everyone seemed surprised that he went with the Diddy butler-look.

Check out Pete's take on the prospect's gear and some blasts from the past.

"...You see, for too long we've been devoid of creative wardrobe selections at the NBA Draft. Throughout the '80's and '90s, watching this event meant three things: the Dallas Mavericks screwing something up, TNT's Bob Neal announcing each pick, and absolutely absurd clothing choices.

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Got an interesting Tweet from "Section 518" who had a thought that I had on Thursday once I heard that Ty Lawson was traded to Denver.

Walsh loves Lawson, and it may seem that the Rubio deal doesn't have the right parts. Not sure the Wolves would want David Lee with both Kevin Love and Al Jefferson up front. Do they do Chandler and Nate? Who knows. Rubio's camp wants out and the situation could really drag out.

The Nuggs apparently offered Linas Kleiza for David Lee, which Walsh turned down. Does Ty Lawson cause the deal to be revisited?

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Just wanted to take a second to ask you guys a quick question as I shake off a long evening at Mohegan Sun. You want the quick recap? Got down, went to the ATM, made a huge run, which would have been equivalent of a 20-2 spurt causing several time outs from the other team and then ultimately left breaking even.

Won't be back there for a while, so had to get it out of my system.

Anyway, again with Drew manning the controls, Alvino getting the fan's (along with Johnny Hoops and Trautwig) perspective, Myles playing hurt, Big Ben getting our take and your boy scouring the room for rumors.

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Via Sheridan:
"...In hindsight, the Knicks had some huge regrets Friday. Two weeks ago, they were convinced Rubio would be off the board at No. 5, leading them to turn down a deal that would have sent Larry Hughes and Chandler to Washington for Etan Thomas, Mike James, Oleksiy Pecherov and the No. 5 pick (New York would not have surrendered the eighth pick in that trade), and Washington ended up getting Miller and Foye for the pick..."
If this were true that shows you how high they are on both Hill and Chandler and maybe not so high on Curry or Tyreke Evans. If they moved to 5 they could have secured Curry or Rubio and still landed Hill at 8.

Now, you'd have to figure, that Chandler is an absolute D'Antoni favorite.

I'm really not to sure if I buy this anyway. Why would Washington pull a deal two weeks before the draft? You'd have to think that they would have waited up until the draft, which is what ultimately ended up happening.

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Jeff Goodman is a senior college basketball writer for FoxSports.? Check out his blog at Good'N'Plenty.

Interview with Jeff Goodman, Foxsports.com

CA:?How did you like the draft overall?

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**I will give my thoughts on the draft winners and losers at some point soon.? Initial reaction to the Knicks... unsure.? I am not sure Doulas was the best guy at that spot, even though Walsh loved him at the workout and others love the pick.? I am just not sold that he is better pro prospect than a guy like Sam Young.? If Doulas can play the point (and not like Nate Robinson or Eddie House playing the point), then this pick makes more sense to me.? But if he is simply an under-sized SG that will be used in the Nate Robinson role, then I do not like the pick.? I am starting to get tired of watching an under-sized Knick team.? Young could have provided starter potential, length, offensive power, defense, and size at the shooting guard spot.? So what he is 24 years old.? What difference does that make?? As for Hill, he was the best player there at 8.? Barring a trade for Rubio or Curry, the Knicks did the best they could at that pick.? I believe that Hill can ultimately play both the 4 and the 5, but time will tell on him.? I feel bad that he got booed, but with Curry going just before to Golden State, I was not surprised. Oh well.......**

I was at the draft last night in the Garden, and I was able to catch up with a bunch of loyal TKB readers and die-hard Knicks fans.?This is what they had to say:

Nathan Cohen:? First off, let me say this.? Nathan helped me get?down into the front area of the draft for the?latter half of the first round.? Thanks again bud. I caught up with him while waiting to get into the?theater, and Nathan said he wanted either Rubio or Curry, but that "I trust Donnie Walsh to make the best move."? Nathan, did he do that in your opinion?

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Join Tony Rice Balls as he talks about his reaction to the aftermath of last night's draft on TKB Radio at 9 am.

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Interesting report? filed byKen Berger a little while ago:
"...So a predictable scenario was playing out, one that eerily followed Rubio's comments Wednesday about needing to be taken in a "top spot" to make the approximately $4 million buyout with his European team, JKV Joventut, palatable. Not inclined to view Minnesota -- and the $5.7 million rookie-scale guarantee over the first two years -- as a "top spot," Rubio apparently would rather go home for a year or two than play for the T-Wolves.

"Now I know where I'm going to go, so I have to talk with the team, what exactly they want about me, and if necessary, I'm going to pay the buyout," Rubio said.

That's fine with David Kahn, Minnesota's new GM, who had the stones to pick Rubio even though he knew it would be problematic. He knew it would be problematic because Rubio was represented by Dan Fegan, who tried to scare the bejesus out of the Milwaukee Bucks when they dared to select Yi Jianlian in 2007. That didn't end well, depending on your perspective. Yi was dealt to the Nets in a package for Richard Jefferson, who was given away to San Antonio this week for expiring contracts.

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We are all hearing the rumors about Amare.? In recent days, there have been deals, but if Amare is dealt, I would have to believe that he would be the highest profile player to be moved.? Vescey had a rumor of McGrady, Aaron Brooks, and Carl Landry going to the Suns for Barbosa and Amare.? Yahoo has Amare to Golden State for Biedrins and 7.? What does this all mean?

You have to ask yourselves, is now the time for Donnie to think bold.... VERY BOLD?? Walsh has said that he would set his 2010 plan in motion if he was able to acquire a 2010 talent (whatever that means).? Well, does Amare qualify?

In recent days, we have seen Richard Jefferson dealt for nothing more than cap relief and 3 over-the-hill subs, two of which the Bucks plan to buy out of their contracts. Last night, Shaq was dealt for a potentially retiring Ben Wallace and? a fringe rotation guard.? The Wizards dealt their pick along with bad contracts for two good players.? The Warriors dealt Jamal Crawford for a shot Speedy and a bust in Acie. Get where I am going?

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Okay, my phones and emails are off the wall and haven't stopped. Here's what we're hearing:

  • Sounds like possible destinations for David Lee could be Portland or Memphis, yes Memphis. We told you Portland had interest around the deadline, then heard recently they are focusing on Turkoglu, but a source tells me that if the Knicks don't get close to what his agent deems as max value, expect a sign and trade to either. Chicago could have been a possibility, but there are way too many moving parts. Chicago doesn't want to give up what the Knicks would want, and remember Ben Gordon is unrestricted.
  • The Knicks aren't the only team in the area who have serious interest in Gerald Henderson. Kudos to Isola for digging to hear that Henderson is a possibility in NY, which I've heard two other people mention, and one who I really trust. You guys have heard Rubio and Jrue out of me...but you know I would have drafted Henderson in March.
  • The Nets have high interest in the Duke product and right now they rank him and Terence Williams about even. You can throw Tyler Hansbrough into the discussion as well. They will take Demar DeRozan if he falls but not before Jordan Hill if he falls. They are not targeting Brandon Jennings (neither are the Knicks despite reports), DeJuan Blair or James Johnson.
  • Speaking of Johnson, Golden State is all over him. Obviously, 7 is too early for the Wake product, but they are trying every means necessary to try and obtain another pick to get him. They think he's a steal.
Also, Via Chris Broussard (12:45am)
"...The Cleveland Cavaliers and the Phoenix Suns have come to an agreement on a blockbuster trade that sends Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland to team with LeBron James, according to sources.

The deal has been agreed to in principle and is expected to be finalized Thursday, according to sources.

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With reports that darko may REALLY be coming to the Knicks this time, (and let's face it, it's for Q then you make it happen) and the fact that the Clippers apparently will be shopping some bigs, the Knicks may be bolstering their front line.

We said it at the Draft Lottery that Marcus Camby could be the option, and when you consider what the Clip Show gave up to get him, it makes sense that Walsh can get him on the cheap.

We know he was the target last year during the Z-Bo talks but was told he was unavailable, but now that he could be on the market expect Donnie to pounce.

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A whole bunch of good stuff thus far today. Let's get caught up to speed:

1. Via Marc Stein:

"The Grizzlies aren't just entertaining the idea of parting with the No. 2 overall pick in Thursday's draft. They've also engaged in advanced discussions with the Knicks that should put former No. 2 overall pick Darko Milicic in New York by week's end ... unless Memphis winds up needing Milicic's expiring contract in another draft-related trade.

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Update: 1050 ESPN is reporting that it is a done deal for 3 million dollars...although they are claiming that Wilson Chandler is untouchable as we look towards maybe other deals. The Kings pick at 4 is still in play I believe...

1050 ESPN Radio's "professional pest" Andrew Marchand is reporting the Knicks are in the midst of trying to land the 28th pick in this year's draft from the Wolves.

Interesting take, yet I'm hearing that it's going to take more than the 3 million to land the other Wolves pick, which stands at 18. Walsh was adamant the other day in saying, "I'd love to have a pick, but people aren't running around giving them away" and also added, "you might be able to get a really good player 20 to 30."

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Frank Isola is reporting that the should Brandon Jennings and Gerald Henderson be on the board at 8, the Knicks prefer the Duke guard, who has been having tremendous workouts.
"...The Knicks own the eighth pick in Thursday's draft and are trying to move into the top four in order to take Rubio, the highly touted point guard from Spain. Rubio, Curry and Evans are all projected to go in the top seven.

When it comes time for the Knicks to make their pick, point guards Brandon Jennings Jrue Holiday should both be available, but people familiar with the club's thinking claim that Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni prefer Henderson, a 6-5 shooting guard from and son of the former player - and former Knick - of the same name.

The thinking among the Knicks' brain trust is that Henderson, unlike Jennings and Holiday, has the ability to step in and make an immediate contribution. Henderson, who averaged 16.5 points last season as a junior, is regarded a strong character individual with a high basketball IQ. In a majority of mock drafts, Henderson is projected to be picked either 11th or 12th..."

Well, you know we love Henderson who has the NBA frame and athleticism to help immediately, but I can imagine the unmerciless booing should they take him. He's a good, solid fit moving forward.
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I know it's hard to trade Wilson Chandler. Real hard. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if Knick management were torn right down the middle. TKB reached out to Wilson, who appeared on our radio show the other day, but his phone was turned off.

I've loved Will since day one and see him as a physically gifted player who plays on both ends. He can shoot and slash and is unselfish as well. All the things that can make him a perennial 15 ppg scorer along with solid rebounding,? assist and steal numbers. He's a 25-30 minute player on a highly- competitive team.

That said, Chandler's wavering confidence has been an issue, as has his shot selection, and his handle will never allow him to be a 2 guard in this system. As we know forcing a player out of position can rack the brain. Just ask Danny Murphy.

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I am not a gambler, but I know a big risk when I see one. With rumors swirling around that the Knicks might be willing to offer Wilson Chandler for the Wizards? #5 overall selection, I figured that I would chime in before anything comes to a head. The Knicks have to acquire young talent. It is fair to say that. But in dealing away Wilson Chandler, Donnie Walsh would be dealing away a young player for the sake of bringing in just one other young player. It is not surprising to see the Wizards be so willing to move out of the fifth spot. After all, this draft is not necessarily the cream of the crop when it comes to drafts. The Wizards want to win now, and to do so, they need productive players that can contribute immediately. With the Cavs coming off a Cinderella season, the Magic potentially losing Hedo Turkoglu, and the Celtics getting older, the Wizards see an opening in the Eastern Conference. The Hawks were the 4th best team in the East. Get my drift?

Wilson Chandler, love him, hate him, or fall in between, is a productive player. Forget about the nonsense that he would not be a good player in a more traditional system. Chandler has game. He showed it under Isaiah two years ago. Last year, he was near the top of the sophomore class. As an inconsistent 21 year old, Chandler was essentially a 15 ppg and 5 rpg SF that was arguably the team?s best defender. Playing the 2, 3, or 4, Chandler was also arguably the most versatile player on the team. Right now, Chandler is a starter on a mediocre team, and perhaps the 6th man on a championship caliber team. He is that good now, and he has the potential to be a very, VERY special player. If he was in this year?s draft (he is younger than many of the 1st round prospects), Wilson would be a lock for the lottery, and perhaps a lock for the top 10.

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With the rumors with Washington on full speed, the Post's Peter Vecsey adds some fuel to the fire in saying that the Knicks are angling for 5 so they can trade up to 2 to snag Ricky Rubio.

"...Some of the immoderately mesmerized queued up include the Timberwolves, Kings and Knicks, who are angling to acquire No. 5 from Washington for Larry Hughes (but must take the expiring contracts of Mike James and Etan Thomas) and parlay the pick with No. 8 for No. 2.

Disregarding the 6-foot-3 Spaniard's contract tribulations for the moment, Rubio doesn't take a possession off competitively, has improved his 3-point shot whenhe's able to set his feet, a la Jason Kidd, and sees the court like a nun saw a crowded classroom, minus the mistakes.

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Just finished the radio show with Rice Balls and came upon this nugget from Hahn.
"...The best opportunity may come with the Wizards' pick at No. 5, though it would come at a very steep price. Multiple sources confirmed that the Knicks have discussed a potential blockbuster trade between the teams that would land the fifth overall pick and allow the Knicks to keep their spot at No. 8. The deal likely would have to include one of the team's most valuable assets, swingman Wilson Chandler, which would be a difficult decision.

This scenario also might include Larry Hughes going back to Washington in exchange for guard Mike James, a Long Island product, and a big man such as Etan Thomas or Brendan Haywood. All of the players involved have expiring contracts.

The bold move by the Knicks, however, would not be to target Thabeet or even Spanish guard Ricky Rubio. It appears more likely that Davidson's Stephen Curry or Memphis' Tyreke Evans are the more coveted prospects.

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Here's your last chance to get on the list for The 40-40 Club following the draft Thursday.

Check out TKB Radio tonight at 9 to get the chance to win.

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Donnie Walsh admitted that he has never seen Ricky Rubio in person but has seen him plenty of times on tape and of course in the Olympics where Mike D'Antoni got to see him up close. He knows what type of player he is and he trusts his scouts in Spain.

Walsh also admitted there are Plans B,C, D and E to go along with plan A because you always have to be prepared. Where staying put at 8 is as part of those plans is anyone's guess.

Walsh talked about plenty of prospects in depth, and was sure to try and distinguish them so I'll pass it to my boy Zags, who has listed Walsh's thoughts on each prospect including Holiday.

"...ON RICKY RUBIO: "I think there are other players that are on his level. He's got experience. He's got a great game. He's got a flair. Like most of the players in the draft, he's got some things he does better than others, and he's got some things that he doesn't do well. He's 6-feet-4, 6-feet-5, that's a big guard."

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Just finished yapping with Donnie Walsh as he addressed the media at the team's practice facility in Greenburgh and there were some important points of note.

First and foremost, Walsh is looking for a prospect? who can "play at fast tempo, and a guy who can defend."

Smokescreen or not Walsh didn't seem overly optimistic about the prospects of moving up Thursday, but felt that he may not need to seeing that two intriguing prospects,? Ricky Rubio and Hasheem Thabeet, could find their way to the Knicks at 8. Walsh was clear in saying the Knicks have not worked out Rubio, refuting a report today. (Our apologies to Marc Berman who said they were trying to interview Rubio, not work him out). Walsh told reporters that he had not seen Rubio in person, but is confident that he knows him as a player.

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Via Berman:
"...The Knicks have not given up hope on Ricky Rubio and are still trying to interview the 18-year-old Spanish point guard phenom this week before Thursday's NBA Draft, according to a source. Rubio will be in New York for the draft but hasn't worked out for teams.

Rubio visited Sacramento, but did not work out.

Rumors are circulating that Rubio could fall because of the complexity of his $6 million buyout and the Kings are no lock to take him at No. 4. Rubio has sued his Spanish club and a court hearing is scheduled for tomorrow. A Spanish source said he would not be surprised if Rubio starts the preseason in Spain.

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From today:Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry, Jonny Flynn, Toney Douglas, Nick Calathes, Patrick Mills...

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Good stuff from Michael Lee of The Washington Post.

"...The latest rumor has the New York Knicks interested in moving up to No. 5 in order to take one of the many players they reportedly covet -- Stephen Curry, Jordan Hill or Jrue Holiday. According to NBAdraft.net, the Knicks have offered guard Wilson Chandler as part of a package to move up. The report also states that the Knicks might be able to add the No. 5 pick without sacrificing the eight pick, which I find a bit implausible. Chandler is a decent player -- the 6-foot-8, soon-to-be third year swingman averaged 14.4 points and 5.4 rebounds in Mike D'Antoni's high octane offense last year -- but no way is he worth the fifth pick straight up. Especially not after recently having surgery to remove bone spurs from his left ankle...

...I can easily see the Wizards moving down in this draft, since, based on conversations that I've had with people around the league, there really isn't much separation from the players in that four through 10 range. It really comes down to how desperate a team is to get that one player it desires. I spoke with a player agent who told me that from his conversations with league executives, there will be enough trades this Thursday to blow away any wild draft day in recent memory -- including 2006, when there were 15 trades on draft night. The wackiest night belonged to Foye, who pulled off a draft night hat trick as he was drafted by Boston, traded to Portland then traded to Minnesota.

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Everyone is talking about the Washington Wizards and 5, how about the idea of moving up to the Kings at 4. They apparently love Jonny Flynn.

Sam Amick, who does a bang up job for the Sac Bee's Kings Blog, gives some insight as to where the prospects including Flynn and Ricky Rubio sit in the eyes of Kings brass.

"...While Rubio remains high on the Kings' board, it is believed the in-house opinions vary greatly. Syracuse point guard Jonny Flynn has many fans in the team's scouting department and front office, and Memphis' Tyreke Evans will have another chance to establish his position as he has a second Kings workout Sunday.

He will be joined by a potential dark horse in the race, as Davidson guard Stephen Curry is already gaining ground in the Kings' conversation and could greatly improve his chances with a good showing. Curry, who has drawn comparisons to former Kings point guard Mike Bibby, averaged 28.6 points per game in his junior season while shooting 45.4 percent overall and 38.7 percent from three-point range..."Apparently, the Knicks and Kings were close to a deal last deadline, which would have sent Nate Robinson and Jared Jefferies to Sac Town for Kenny Thomas's contract. The Kings were said to want Nate because he is a fan favorite. But as we know, Nate can't be moved in a deal until July and if they want Flynn, do they really want Nate too?

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I'm puzzled why people believe that Jrue Holiday could possibly be a potential bust. What I also have trouble believing or understanding is that a good portion of Knick fans have openly complained that this team needs defense and that their coach doesn't teach it. So, how about bringing in a good prospect who actually WANTS to defend?

And as I've said all along, the reasons why I love Holiday is his ability to want to guard, his physical attributes and skills at the point guard position. To me, he is one of the top 2 or 3 all-around prospects in the entire draft.

But don't worry about me, take David Thorpe's word for it. Thorpe, who doesn't buy my "lefty big men have the advantage" stance, (we'll agree to disagree) has as strong a scouting eye as there is. As Executive Director of the Pro Training Center at IMG Academies in Bradenton, Florida, he has been working potential picks for nearly two decades.

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Minnesota GM David Kahn had the following to say about both Al Jefferson and Kevin Love, two players mentioned in trade talks. Jefferson was rumored in a deal for Amar'e and Love has been rumored to be offered to the Grizz, along with 6, for the second pick.

"...Asked if Jefferson or any other player on the team is untouchable, Kahn offered a qualified no.

"Maybe LeBron (James) and Kobe (Bryant) are in that status," he said. "I think what I'm trying to say is even Al would say to me, he'd probably say, 'David, if Cleveland calls and offers us LeBron for me, David, you better do that.' Al would say that, right? These kids are very bright. They know that. I think what I'm trying to say, though, is we are not shopping and not seeking to trade Al Jefferson. He's a very important component of this team, and I would even add Kevin (Love) into that mix."

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Several sources familiar with the Nets said that the reported rumors that they would deal point guard Devin Harris to Memphis for the second overall pick won't happen.

Now, it is possible that the Nets try and add another pick, but trading their up and coming point guard is not the move at this time.

Harris is very close with his teammates, particularly Vince Carter, and it would seem that trading a relatively-proven commodity who's on the upside of his career would make little sense so that they can move up and draft unproven Ricky Rubio, who would need time to develop into what Harris already is.

TKB, part of the SNY.tv Blog Network,? was the first to report that Lawrence Frank would return to the swamp for the 2009-10 season.

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There are several things in sports that always grab a fan's attention. ESPN sideline reporter Erin Andrews, for example, is someone who's been known to stop any and all bar conversations mid-rant. But from an actual informational standpoint, there is a serious fascination with mock drafts. I like the mocks as much as the next sports junkie, but as we look toward the NBA Draft next week, and even well into July, it appears that there will be so much movement that mocks will be pretty useless.Players that I have talked to in and around Knicks camp feel that a bevy of trades are coming, and the shuffling has them all on edge.

"It's wide open," Tyreke Evans told reporters the other day following his workout at the Knicks' facility in Greenburgh. "One minute they are looking at looking at someone else, then another guy. Hopefully you end up in a good place where you want to be."

Even a player who has been lobbying to end up at 2 Penn Plaza went on record yesterday saying that he's not so sure what to think either.

Tags: 2009 Active Off season, 2009 NBA Draft, 2009 prospects, Ricky Rubio
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Via Adam Zagoria

"...Twenty years ago, Rod Strickland was a talented and popular point guard for the Knicks. A generation later, one of Strickland's proteges, Tyreke Evans, could end up in New York as well.

The Knicks hold the No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft on June 25 and have worked out a slew of point guards, including the 6-foot-6, 220-pound Evans out Chester, Pa.

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Just had a conversation with a Big East assistant coach and we went over all the prospects in the draft and he said, without question,? Louisville's Terence Williams is the sleeper prospect of the conference.

"Williams is a handful," the coach said." I hear people say he can't shoot, but he can score and guard multiple positions and he's a really underrated passer."
And what followed was a great point and one that teams picking in the mid first round, should take notice of.

"He's kind of like (Trevor) Ariza in a lot of ways as in he can slash and do a lot of things. He's not as tall but he's pretty long at the guard position. He's got great energy. He's a steal."
I like the Ariza thing based on the fact that Ariza, and Rajon Rondo for that matter, weren't good shooters but learned to be. Ariza didn't miss this year.

Tags: 2009 NBA Draft, 2009 prospects, Wilson Chandler
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ESPN spoke to the parties who were said to be making waves out in Golden State according to a report earlier in the week.
"...Did the Warriors make him a promise that they weren't going to draft a playmaking point guard? Riley was adamant that the topic never even came up.

"We did not make him a promise on who we're going to draft," Riley said. "There was none of that. There was no talk about not drafting particular positions or particular players. Our talk was totally about our team and our staff and getting things moving in the right direction. We were trying to get everyone on the same page."

Ellis' take on the meeting was similar. The meeting, according to Ellis, was about "me and Coach getting on the same page. Not going through what we went through last year. He's going to back me up and I'm going to back him up." Ellis said that the meeting was meant more to clear the air and refocus everyone for next season. "Everyone has to be on the same page and that meeting put us on the same page..."

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Interesting piece by Ailene Voisin of the Sac Bee who pleads for the Kings management to do everything in their power to make sure Ricky Rubio follows up in a long line of Euros to call Sac-town home. None as famous as the one and only Vlad Divac... right Shaq?

Anyway, Voisin adds an interesting note corroborating my thoughts as to why the Knicks could be a major player.

Tags: 2009 Active Off season, 2009 NBA Draft, 2009 prospects, Ricky Rubio
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I'll let you guys and gals play around with this one. For those that have not looked at this yet, it is fairly interesting. According to Hollinger's draft rater, this is the top dozen players in this year's draft class:

"To review for the uninitiated, the Draft Rater looks at a player's college production in a variety of metrics and a few other salient facts (such as his height, birth date and years of college experience), and from that projects what a player's Player Efficiency Rating will be when he reaches his peak.

According to Hollinger, the Draft Rater also has spotted some of the biggest steals in recent years:

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Kudos to a fan named John Howard who made a Knick post on an Oklahoma Thunder forum in talking about the last 20 drafts.

"...Who will New York take with the 8th pick??? I've seen many mock drafts and there is one consistency--point guard.?? Brandon Jennings, John Flynn, Jrue Holliday are all point guards that keep popping up.? I've looked at the last 20 drafts and have broken down the 8th pick as follows:

Super stars--0

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Interesting stuff from Stephen Curry who was a guest on The Dan Patrick Show.
"...Curry said he knows less now because there's a lot more trade talk going on. Curry says he's getting a lot of information, but he's not sure what it all means.

"You don't know who to believe when you hear stuff from GMs," Curry said.

Dan asked Curry about the workouts with different teams. Curry said that he's worked out for the Knicks, Bobcats and Wizards. He will work out with the Kings soon.

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The Bee is reporting that according to the legendary Dan Peterson, the Knicks ARE trying to move up to get Rubio, validating your boy's gut feeling.
"...Among the other things I have been hearing throughout the day - the Knicks interest in trading for the No.2 pick to swipe Rubio said to be legitimate - are a few red-hot nuggets from former Italian league coach and Milan-based television analyst Dan Peterson. The former Delaware head coach, it appears, is not a fan of Brandon Jennings.During our conversation Wednesday afternoon, Peterson ripped into Jennings, who last week suggested to The Bee that Rubio was little more than a You Tube sensation.

"Ricky Rubio is not overhyped," said Peterson, who broadcast several of Jennings' games last season for Lottomatica Virtus Roma. "Jennings is overhyped. He has it all backwards. He is all about trying to dominate one-on-one, all concerned with individual talent. I find it hilarious."Peterson went on to say that he liked Jennings' quickness and talent, but didn't think he was NBA-ready. Rubio, he says, is NBA ready. "One of the things that happens in the NBA, everybody has a theory on what a guy can't do. That's all you hear. Sacramento would be very lucky to get Ricky Rubio. It would be a good place for (Rubio), the capital city of California, not too big. He is just a terrific player, though he needs to improve his three-point shooting. He gets into the lane, draws fouls, has the whole package. People would love him there. He's a winner. I would throw myself in front of a bus for Ricky Rubio. But I would have a hard time having Brandon Jennings on my team. I would send him home."Ouch. Jennings DID apologize to Rubio, by the way.

Boys, boys, boys ...

Why Peterson's words matter

When trolling for information before the NBA Draft, and relying on international sources as well as NBA types for insights, I tend to avoid the couch potato/stats geeks and consult with the coaches/scouts/sources who actually observe prospects during live games and practices. Thus, Peterson is an invaluable resource.
Peterson is as legendary as a coach in Italy as Mike D'Antoni was as a player. Here's a bit about him from Wiki:
"...In 1987 he retired after coaching for 14 years in Italy. He still holds records for a coach in Italian playoffs with 11 Final Four appearances in 11 years (after which a playoff format was introduced), 9 finals, 4 titles, 74 games coached, and 51 games won. He received the Coach of the Year award for Europe from the WABC and the Coach of the Year for Italy twice. Following his retirement from coaching, he was inducted into the Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame in 1995..."
Uh, now I REALLY feel good about it happening.
Tags: 2009 Active Off season, 2009 NBA Draft, Ricky Rubio
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According to Marc Berman-
"...Still analyzing point-guard talent, the Knicks are trying to bring in UCLA freshman point guard Jrue Holiday for a second workout, The Post has learned.

Holiday worked out on June 9 for the Knicks, who fear Stephen Curry will be off the board when they pick at No. 8 in next Thursday's NBA Draft.

It's Pac-10 time for the Knicks. After working out Arizona's C Jordan Hill Tuesday, the Knicks will bring in USC freshman shooting guard DeMar DeRozan today for a solo job.

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Time to step out on a limb.

The more I think of it, the more I've come to realize that when it's all said and done, Ricky Rubio will be a Knick.

How do I know? There just seems to be too many things moving in that direction.

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