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A source close to the Knicks who I spoke with told me that the Knicks did make a deal to acquire Jerome Jordan, first reported by TKB,? and that they "are waiting for it to become official." ESPN's Chris Sheridan reported that the deal was contingent on a physical from Corey Maggette.

Today, there is a report by Gery Woelfel that an injury to Maggette is holding up his announcement to the Bucks, thus answering why Jordan has not been placed on the Knicks Summer League.

The Bucks aren?t expected to have a press conference for Corey Maggette, the veteran forward they acquired in a trade with Golden State.

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Via Truehoop
Tim Varner of 48 Minutes of Hell addressed the possibility a few days ago:

If the Spurs sent Parker to the Knicks, they could, as one example, take back Toney Douglas (adding depth behind George Hill at point guard) and a whopping big trade exception. Nothing more. N.Y. is under the cap. Salaries don?t have to match.

The Spurs could then use the trade exception to shop the free agent market, effectively giving themselves cap space to play with. Of course, the Spurs couldn?t sign players outright with trade exception money, but, in this market, there are plenty of contracted players or free agents who could be had through a trade or sign and trade.

In a similar manner, the Spurs could sign and trade Richard Jefferson to a team under the cap and take back a large trade exception for him as well.

Interesting. What would the Spurs want to shop the free agent market to get? My thing is that they'd spend the money on bringing in Tiago Splitter...
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Via ESPN-LA:
"Miller is seeking a multiyear contract above the mid-level exception valued at $5.8 million a year for up to five seasons."
Again, the Knicks can make room by involving Wilson Chandler's deal and one has to wonder how much money the Knicks have available when it's all said and done.
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Clearly what we have, based on several conversations, is a relative agreement on both team's parts. Without question, and this is me just speaking freely, there's little doubt that Amar'e would leave the Suns without a guarantee that another player will be joining him.

So ignore all this "desperate" move stuff please.

It appears that Amar'e and the team are getting very close to finalizing a deal, and that Monday, as we told you the other day, would be the closing date.

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Via Daily News
According to a Knicks source, the club is confident that they can sign Miller and believe he is a suitable alternative for Johnson. Miller and Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni hit it off in Los Angeles three days ago and Miller is said to want to play in New York and D'Antoni's system.
Miller at a discount would be a pretty slick grab. Have to see how much they are offering. I'd think Miller would take a pay cut to play with 2 superstars...should that happen. He may be the most underrated 3-point shooter in basketball. At this point, he's still athletic, but is on the boarder of being a "specialist". I've also heard rumblings that Wilson Chandler's contract will be moved at some point as well.

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A source close to the situation tells me that Amar'e and the Knicks are getting very close on a 5-year deal and it should be done on or around Monday.

We reported last night that talks had been progressing quickly and that his days in Phoenix seemed over.

No word on whether this impacts Lebron James, but it can only help from a basketball standpoint and they'd be the most superior pick and roll combination, maybe in the history of the NBA.

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Via Fan House
"...Sources say Blake, who averaged 7.3 points and 4.8 assists in 80 games last season with Portland and then with Clippers, is drawing the strongest interest from Orlando, New York and Toronto, with the Lakers and the Bobcats also being in the mix..."
Hard not to like Blake, who led Maryland to a national championship. He's a facilitator.
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Via L?Equipe.Fr (translated into English):

?I talked with Pop (Popovich Greppi, Spurs coach), he told me that I?m not going anywhere, says the French L?Equipe on Tuesday. New York and Portland were the two most serious tracks, it?s true, but San Antonio has said no. And I love the club. I want to stay to the last year of contract and then be a free agent. ?

Finger Point to "Knicks Tweets"

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Via NYSportsSpace
"...The opinions regarding the Knicks draft strategy on twitter, the blogosphere and the mindless mainstream media were overwhelmingly negative

This doesn't surprise me one bit. People want sexy picks with BIG upside that went to BIG schools and can bring the rim down with BIG dunks. I can't hate. Who doesn't want some rookie to break the glass at the Garden so we can all pound 8 dollar beers while they bring in a new rim?

The problem is that the Knicks had only 2 late second round picks and a roster with only 4 players on it. Of course you want to draft a player who will improve but at the same token - you need guys who are ready now. You MUST fill the roster with inexpensive, basketball smart and NBA ready rookies who can add depth and compliment the preordained superstars you plan to add in free agency...read more."

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Via Seth from Posting and Toasting
"...We've been in everyday contact with the New York Knicks," Nick Paluch, the director of marketing and co-founder of BP Sports Management, the agency representing Washington, said Wednesday before the draft.

"They're not looking at him as someone who would be a big scorer. But someone who would give them 10, 12 minutes and get maybe six points and a handful of rebounds. more."

Of course we're talking about Michael Washington of Arkansas. Not much video about him except he had a sick dunk against Texas a few years ago.
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While I'm shocked the Knicks weren't players in the trade market while virtually every other team was, Donnie Walsh either didn't like a prospect enough to pay or was protecting the cap number. Sounds like the latter.

"There are a lot of teams out there creating more cap [space]," he told Alan Hahn, who was correct in the sense that the draft was more hype than anything "so we wanted to make sure our position was unchanged."

And they have, but is it enough? Only one more week and we'll see, but like I said on The Wheelhouse, if they didn't make a deal or anything happen, I truly believe that they feel REALLY strong about their pitch to James.

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Sources tell me that, no surprise, Donnie Walsh is taking his time here. As we know picks 20-40 are a complete crapshoot and the talent level is very comparable. Right now it appears that teams are holding Walsh to cash AND either 38 or 39. That's a lot. There are other teams like the Cavs who are trying to snag a pick in that range too.

Clearly, from what I'm gathering, they really want Hobson. But Walsh will wait to see if he can snag a pick with cash only, not a pick in subsequent drafts.

Everything I'm hearing is that Walsh will gauge the interest of other teams in terms of Hobson, and ultimately decide during the draft if he can trade up without giving in to surrendering 38 or 39.

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Berman, despite not mentioning TKB,? also mentions Hobson:

"...Chris Ekstrand, the NBA's draft consultant, said Hobson is "a good multi-purpose player who can actually play some point guard and make a lot of decisions. His niche is as a defensive player, a stopper of 2's and 3's, but he's not a great shooter."

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Via Yahoo:

"...Duke?s 7-foot-1 center Brian Zoubek has emerged as one of the top second-round prospects, and league executives believe he could be one of the New York Knicks? back-to-back picks at Nos. 38 and 39..."
Via Daily News:
"...As for Walsh, he has spoken to the Wolves about trading for the 23rd overall pick but Minnesota currently has a better deal on the table from New Jersey. The Knicks would consider buying a first round pick if they believe they can get the player they want.

Last season, they gave the Lakers $3 million for the rights to Toney Douglas, a move that worked out well for both clubs.

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Via Newsday:
"...Though Donnie Walsh is believed to be resisting the urge to buy a late first-round pick - the going rate will be about $3 million in cash - multiple sources told Newsday that the Knicks have talked with several teams about their first-round picks. The reason for this is the potential of one of the main draft targets: New Mexico swingman Darington Hobson.

The Knicks, according to an NBA executive, have talked to the Memphis Grizzlies about buying one of their late first-round picks at No. 25 or No. 28. Another scenario, according to two other sources in the NBA, is an offer that could involve sending Wilson Chandler and cash to the Portland Trail Blazers for Rudy Fernandez and the No. 22 pick.

Though Donnie Walsh is believed to be resisting the urge to buy a late first-round pick - the going rate will be about $3 million in cash - multiple sources told Newsday that the Knicks have talked with several teams about their first-round picks. The reason for this is the potential of one of the main draft targets: New Mexico swingman Darington Hobson.

The Knicks, according to an NBA executive, have talked to the Memphis Grizzlies about buying one of their late first-round picks at No. 25 or No. 28. Another scenario, according to two other sources in the NBA, is an offer that could involve sending Wilson Chandler and cash to the Portland Trail Blazers for Rudy Fernandez and the No. 22 pick..."

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Via Knicks PR:

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If the Memphis/Wolves trade goes through and the Wolves don't trade up, then that opens the door even further for the Knicks in the mid 20s.

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It's going to take a lot to get Paul, if New Orleans even trades him, which they probably won't.

We know that the Knicks were awfully high on Jonny Flynn last year. Flynn is an explosive PG who had to play in the triangle offense this year. He's a pick and roll/pull up specialist. One that I haven't seen in quite some time. He's also part of CAA, the agency that represents Lebron James.

Ty Lawson is another QB that piques the Knicks interest.

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Via Andy Katz. Memphis looking to ship 16 for 25 and 28.

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A source has told me that the Knicks will have West Virginia forward and native New Yorker Devin Ebanks in for a workout tomorrow. Ebanks' is said to be in the 20-40 range and Oklahoma City is said to have real interest if they keep their picks in the mid 20s.

Ebanks is in Toronto today.

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Man, this draft is so crazy to judge.

So I've heard the Rockets are in love with Hassan Whiteside, but the report out of Houston is that they are trying to jump into the top 10. The main reason, a source told me, is to get into the Chris Bosh sweepstakes. Secondly, however, is because the Pacers equally like Whiteside and may take him at 10. I think he'll turn out to be the best big in the draft, and will be out of the Knicks reach, so much so, a source tells me that they haven't even worked him out privately.

Whiteside, who we've talked about briefly, is a pure shooting big built in the Aldridge/Camby mode, much more so than Craig Brackins is.

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Word out of Knicks camp is that Darington Hobson thoroughly outplayed Lance Stephenson yesterday. Hobson, who we told you intrigues the Knicks from a Tayshaun Prince standpoint, is gaining a lot of momentum from brass, particularly Mike D'Antoni. The team is trying to identify his range and could be the answer why the are targeting the Oklahoma City pick.? They still have their sites on Craig Brackins in the same range.? Draftexpress has Hobson going early second round, but I'd be shocked if these mocks will be on point. Either way they will have to trade up somehow to get him. Rumor is Atlanta may be keen on him at 24. For me, if he's the guy and he puts on a little weight, he would be a very efficient player two-way player in this system in my opinion.

Stay tuned.

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Sherron Collins- Looks like his weight is okay.

Terrico White

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I've been checking out his blog lately and it continues to impress. BT insists that no one knows where they are going as of yet. But here are his predictions for the upcoming summer, followed by mine.

"...Since everyone else is secondary, grab a dart, and fire away!

Lebron James: 3 year extension with the Cavs, followed by a similar deal with the Knicks?or Nets

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A few things here. I've heard from multiple people now that the Knicks are targeting either the 26th or 32nd pick in the NBA draft. Both belong to Oklahoma City.

The Knicks are prepped to work out Lance Stephenson and Darrington Hobson. The more I notice who they have working out, the more you realize that said workouts, while important, really give little information.

My guy Larry Sanders, I'm told, will be gone by the mid twenties. Sounds like he has a guarantee from the Bucks and possibly the Bulls.

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Via Knicks PR

? Darington Hobson,? F ? New Mexico? Thomas Huertel, G, France? Gani Lawal, F, Georgia Tech? Samardo Samuels, F, Louisville? David Schneider, G ? William & Mary? Lance Stephenson, F, Cincinnat

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Via Hahn's tweet

Via ESPN

"...Well, a second source indicated it wasn't as simple as a money grab by Kerr. He wanted more money for the coaching staff, video crew, front-office secretaries -- all the people who helped produce this unexpected trip to the conference finals that yielded more than $10 million in extra revenue from eight home playoff games. Except when Kerr went to bat with Sarver, "The guy just bludgeoned Steve," the second source said.

So Kerr's out. Stoudemire's next.

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We know what happened last year with Jordan Hill. He couldn't manage to impress the coaching staff enough to get minutes. I still maintain he COULD have played 25 plus minutes from jump at the expense of a veteran, but the team would have suffered some. I like Hill. We'll check back in with him in a few years.

We've talked about PGs and that's great. Again, this isn't to say that stats mean everything, clearly they don't, but there are things you can't ignore.

"...Hasheem Thabeet appeared in 6 NBADL games during his rookie season in Memphis, showing some glimpses of the type of production that Memphis hopes they?ll get out of him down the road in the NBA, but still looking light years away from contributing at the NBA level relative to his lofty draft status. B.J. Mullens played the majority of last season for the Tulsa 66ers, having some moments of brilliance and some less-than impressive outings. Neither player made any real contributions to their respective NBA teams as rookies ?a great reminder of the learning curve big men face in translating their games to the NBA..."
It's tough to rank the big men in this draft because there aren't many. The Knicks need a post defender and a shot blocker that has to be able to contribute right away. Fans are leery that Mike D'Antoni won't play "bad rookies" so it puts more pressure on Walsh to get this one right, and for the coach to play him.

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DraftExpress does a lot of great things in evaluating prospects. Number 1 in my opinion is cutting through the BS and giving you the real read on PGs.

Check out last year's stats as they are very interesting, especially if you are one of those people who don't believe Toney Douglas is the PG of the future. I think Douglas can be, but he has ways to go in terms of passing. Jerome Randle is again very impressive. These stats strengthen the case for you Greivis Vasquez fans too (DX has moved him into the first round).

So if the Knicks do look PG this year, the latest DX findings are very interesting. Frankly, what I'm looking for here is low turnovers, catch and shoot and assists. Here are a few highlights:

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Via ESPN:
"...A number of NBA sources are telling me that the Denver Nuggets are in the hunt for a Top 10 pick. Nuggets GM Mark Warkentein has been calling around trying to gauge interest in teams selling the pick. According to sources Warkentein is offering Ty Lawson for the pick. A Nuggets source said the Nuggets are looking for big man to fill up their front line. Several bigs including Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, Ekpe Udoh, Patrick Patterson, Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside could be there at 10..."
Via Indy Star-
"...The Pacers are interested in Lawson, according to a source.

The Pacers are willing to give up their pick - No. 10 - in next week's draft to get a player that will help them immediately.

The Pacers wouldn't be searching for a point guard if they had taken Lawson instead of Tyler Hansbrough last year. Lawson, who was the Pacers' second option, averaged 8.3 points and 3.1 assists last season..."

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I began to really pay attention to Jones this season after watching him against St.John's. Then he started to get national fame with strong performances in the Big East Tournament. His is a name I keep hearing a lot of, and one person told me that Jones wouldn't at all mind falling to the Knicks. That's big praise for a franchise that has been wretched for the last decade or so.

Jones, to me, is that prototypical fullback of a guard, in that Rodney Stuckey or Chauncey Billups frame, who was forced to do too much in college and it shows in his stats. Physically, he's NBA ready, although he's no sharp shooter from the arc. Still, scouts love is ability to get to the rim. We've heard Brackins for sure, but Jones is a name that is being leaked out. Will they make a move for him in the first round or wait to see if he falls to 38?

DX

"...With nearly 20% of his touches coming in transition, Jones gets to the line better than any of his peers on the break, drawing a trip to the line on 21.6% of those possessions. The USF product doesn?t excel in any one particular offensive situation, though he is a solid isolation player. Much of his success comes from his ability to finish at the rim. His 1.22 points per-possession as a finisher place him third amongst this group. That quality should lend itself well to the NBA..."
Hoopsworld
"...Dominique Jones, 6'4", 215 lbs.: I really like this kid.? Jones came from relative obscurity into the 2010 NBA Draft picture by posting some big numbers in a competitive Big East Conference while displaying many of the skills and attributes necessary to succeed in the NBA.? With an NBA-ready body, Jones is always in attack mode, challenging defenses with an explosive first step and an unrelenting will.? He gets to the rim where he is fully capable of using his strength to finish through contact while getting the opponents in foul trouble and getting to the free throw line more than eight times per contest this season.? He still isn't fully developed as a shooter and he will have to be more consistent as a shot-maker both off the dribble and when spotting up.? There is no doubt that Jones is physically capable of being an impact player in the NBA and has as high an upside as just about every player on this list..."
NBAdraft.net- NBA Comparison:? Rodney Stuckey

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One has to wonder if that deal includes Hedo Turkoglu. One theory in a Knicks sign and trade for Chris Bosh would include dealing Eddy Curry for Turk's iffy contract. But that could change if Hedo is moved before July 1, like at the draft, because Bosh won't be included.

Chad Ford (via Bulls confidential) also offers this and it competes with Chris Sheridan's (and TKB's) thoughts on acquiring a late first round pick for next Thursday.

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Via Knicks PR:

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Hoopsworld's Steve Kyler notes that Chad Ford is the only draft expert to place Lance Stephenson in the first round. He has him going 24th. They also note the accuracy of the major experts first round mock picks from a year ago.
"...The thing to keep in mind about all Mock Drafts is that each Mock Drafters uses a different concept in building their Mocks, and not all Mock Drafts are based on teams suggesting they would take a player, rather a pundits saying "signs point to" and personal opinion.

Last year of the major Mock Drafters - ESPN's Chad Ford had 10 completely correct selections out the 30 picks and accurately predicted 24 of 30 first round players. Draft Express' Jonathan Givony had 7 completely correct selections and accurately predicted 26 of the 30 first round players. NBADraft.net's Aran Smith also had 7 completely correct selections in the first round, and predicted 25 of the 30 first round players. Where last year I predicted 7 completely accurate first round picks and 25 of the 30 first round players selected.

Admittedly DeJuan Blair slipping into the second round screwed all of us and who saw Christian Eyenga coming? The point is that while all of us do as much homework with site visits and schmoozing as possible, projecting the draft is a crap shoot, mainly because NBA teams will never be honest about where they are leaning until they make their pick..."

I'll be on with Steve tomorrow morning at 11:30 on ESPN1040 in Tampa to talk about the Knicks, the draft, the NBA finals and of course July 1st.
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Via Hoopsworld (via Marc Stein):

"...Rival executives will continue to try to convince the Hornets to make Chris Paul available in trades, pointing to the fact that Williams can simply slide the promising Darren Collison and his modest $1.4 million salary into that spot. When those teams get shot down, look for the Hornets -- based on the hints we've received from more than one exec -- to make Collison available as long as the interested party is willing to take back the cap-clogging contract of Emeka Okafor, James Posey or Peja Stojakovic with Paul's backup.

Williams legitimately does rank as one of the league's better bench prospects. He got his start in under Gregg Popovich in San Antonio's 2004-05 championship season and quickly progressed to the point where he was doing a fair bit of the in-game coaching for Nate McMillan in Portland this season after an Achilles tear cost McMillan much of his mobility..."Interesting. We've talked about this alot. I'm sure this is on Walsh's radar for plans moving down the list, or who knows, maybe it's part on top. The Knicks could help the Hornets from a salary standpoint.

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I've spoken to several people with knowledge of the Knicks workouts. We know the Knicks will be looking for bigs. We also know that point guard could be a position of interest. But why do I keep hearing Darington Hobson? Hobson will work out for the Knicks Monday, but according to Adam Zagoria, Mike D'Antoni was in NJ the other day to watch a workout that included Hobson.

"I think they see Hobson as a smaller version of Tayshaun Prince," one source said. "He's not nearly as tall, but he's got great length (6'10 wingspan), he's lefty and he can stretch to the perimeter. He makes plays too."
Hobson, for me, needs to gain weight, and a guy who needs to go the other direction is Kansas' Sherron Collins who is falling fast. He showed up to the Knicks workout some 10 pounds overweight, apparently due to injury. But he failed to impress. Smokescreen? Who knows.

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So Tyson Chandler has opted out and that has peaked the interest of some Knicks fans that I have talked to.

My suggestion?

Pass.

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Via Knicks PR

"...The NY Knicks will be conducting predraft workouts at MSG Training Center Monday with:

? Landry Fields, G/F, Stanford

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Kudos to Gym Rat? "blackwood" for pointing out Jerome Randle to me. I like the kid's skills. So, too, does Jonathan Givony, who tabbed him one of this draft's sleepers.

"...If we've learned anything over the past few years, though, it's that smaller point guards, such as Darren Collison, Aaron Brooks, J.J. Barea and Ty Lawson, can be successful in today's NBA, especially if they can make shots from the perimeter, run an offense and be competitive on the defensive end.Randle can't play for every NBA coach, but he has enough qualities to at least be a legitimate change-of-pace backup, and maybe even more than that. DraftExpress ranks him the second-best point guard in the draft, after likely No. 1 pick John Wall, and on the right team he could surely find a niche..."
Givony also calls Zoubek one of his sleepers as well as Dominique Jones. Jones has told confidants that he wants to be a Knick and Zoubek worked out well. To my knowledge the Knicks haven't worked out Randle, but that doesn't mean they haven't. Randle is a second round projection.

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Knicksblogger was able to get access inside the workouts, no small feat, and have a chat with president Donnie Walsh.
"...Also watching court side on Tuesday was President Donnie Walsh. "With the 38th and 39th pick, I'd like to get two big guys or a big guy and a point guard, because those are our needs. We don't have shot blocking". That gets me thinking about potential big men that can fulfill the needs Walsh referred to. The second round features a few shot blocking big men in Craig Brackins, Jarvis Varnado, Jerome Jordan and Brian Zoubek- all projected going lower than the Knicks 38th & 39th picks. When asked about the potential of purchasing a higher pick in the draft, Walsh said, "Yea I'd do that. I have to be careful. If I go too high up than the salary of the player goes against the caps. I don't want it to limit what I can do come July 1st". Based on that information, I won't be surprised if the Knicks select two of these big men, to address their problem, then purchase a lower pick and go after a scoring guard. Jordan Crawford, Terrico White or James Anderson will give them the ball handler they desire that can turn it on and score bunches of points in a small period of time..."
We've talked alot about adding that first round pick so expect it to be post-25. Orlando has said it is interested in moving out and Memphis as well as they have 2 selections in the late 20s. Aside from Brackins, the buzz is that Zoubek had an impressive workout and the Knicks could be eyeing Solomon Alabi, former teammate of Toney Douglas at Florida State.
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? Trevor Booker, F ? Clemson

? Dwayne Collins, F ? Miami

? Sherron Collins, G ? Kansas

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Height: 6'6

Weight: 195

Wingspan: 6'7

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Height: 7'1

Weight: 251

Wingspan: 7'5

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