Welcome to BGA Extra, where I draw a line under the previous weekend's game by responding to your questions from Bent's Game Analysis during the week. After the jump, I respond to your questions about Sunday's game against the Bucs. If you would like your questions answered in future, remember to read my BGA game breakdowns every Monday and leave your question in the comments section.
BenNevisI agree that Cromartie looked bad during a number of plays, but to what extent to do you think the game plan (to stop the run) contributed to Jackson's success and Cro's woes? In other words, do you think the game plan dictated the soft coverage that allowed VJ to get separation on Cro?
Definitely having him leave a bit of a cushion was gameplan-related. As you'll note, I mentioned a trap coverage late in the game where Wilson dropped off from the slot to the outside receiver and Cromartie dropped off, so to some extent that was an established tendency. Cromartie doesn't get off the hook that easily though, he completely missed his jam at the line on one third down conversion and was beaten easily on the 40-yarder, again failing to slow him down with legal contact - this time off the line of scrimmage.
LabeasySo what is the thought on Kyle Wilson? I always thought he was decent but yesterday noticed that people were bashing him. Am I missing something?
Wilson has been somewhat of a disappointment having been drafted in the first round three years ago and isn't the most popular player on the team. People get frustrated with him getting confused between man/zone assignments, failing to turn his head around and celebrating on plays where he was beaten but the pass was off the mark. He's improved his physicality since he was a rookie, but sometimes overdoes it. In the game, he was targeted three times and all three were incomplete, but again, he may have been a bit lucky on one or two of those. Strip away the first round expectations though and he's a solid third or fourth cornerback, one of a handful on the active roster. It's important that he's as good in the slot, because Darrin Walls and Ellis Lankster are better on the outside.
Disgruntled Jets FanAny thoughts on Marty's playcalling?
It's a little early to know which plays will be staples of the offense and therefore to make too much of a big deal over play selection. It's also too early to get a read on where tendencies will be developed and what plays they can make to capitalize on those. I wasn't overly frustrated with or enthused about the playcalling, but I was pleased with the execution. In terms of specific plays, I liked the quick third down throw to Powell in the flat. While a lot of people criticized the Kerley toss play because it failed, I didn't think it was a bad idea - just well defended. That play came after Kerley suffered his head injury, so it's possible he might have made a better read with a clear head.
The gameplan was a little conservative, but I'm absolutely fine with that. They probably haven't fully installed everything yet - or at least were working on a tailored gameplan.
tishIt was obvious that both teams concentrated on shutting down the run and each was very effective. How much of the Jets' running difficulties appeared to be the result of ineffective OL play vs. excellent D?
As I alluded to in the article, you can never really know whether you were stopped by a top-level defense or you have issues of your own until a few games into the season. However, even though they lost Michael Bennett in the offseason, the Bucs' record from last year speaks for itself and the fact Gerald McCoy was so disruptive is perhaps less concerning when you consider that he did this to everyone last year and that there aren't many like him in the league. The line does need to develop chemistry, but that was the case early in the season over the last few years too.
Big ChrisI was at the game and on a number of different pass plays, particularly in the first half, it looked like Geno had a few opportunities to take a shot down the field and either didn't see the open receiver or elected not to throw it. When you get the coaches film could you shed some more light into the passing game and the kind of chunk plays this offense will need to be successful?
Yes, from watching the film, I saw examples of him seeing an opportunity but not taking the risk, failing to see the opportunity and well-schemed plays where the deep routes acted as a clear-out for the underneath options.
Fancy some examples?
First off, here's Jeff Cumberland running a post pattern down the middle. The defender, on his heels slightly, wasn't able to get across in time, so it was worth a throw down the middle and probably not very risky. Smith is looking at this, but opts to scramble straight ahead for three. He might have got more than that by dumping the ball to the right flat too.
This is the play where Smith scrambled for 13. As you can see, Clyde Gates is running a crossing route and is waving for the ball at the 21 yard line with nobody on him. While Smith picked up the first down, had he been able to look up and see Gates, it should have been an easy throw for a touchdown.
This isn't a downfield pass, but serves as an example of Smith not always taking the best option. He doesn't see Holmes open in the slot for an easy 5-10 yards, maybe more if he can break a tackle, instead opting to throw to the outside receiver (Gates) who is blanketed by Revis.
Finally, Stephen Hill does a great job of avoiding the jam here at the snap and is pretty much open from the get-go. However, Smith is aware that there's a safety in the middle of the field. He instead throws down the middle to Kerley who almost makes a tough catch.
WW85How many times did we throw deep?
According to the NFL definition of "deep", Smith was 4-for-8 for 86 yards and threw deep one other time on the Cumberland penalty. However, on throws more than 20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, he was 0-for-2 (his first completion, to Kerley and his last to Winslow were his longest throws, but these were both caught less than 20 yards downfield.)
'NYCPE'inGermanyIf you treat last night's QB rushing stats as if it were a college game (subtract the sack yardage the Bucs had from Geno's rushing total), how many yards would he have been credited with and what would his YPA have been? Trying to see if his rushing output last night - if treated as they do in college - were comparable to his college rushing stats.
He would have had 11 carries and five yards - less than a half-yard per carry.
jetsfan74It would also be interesting to see a snap count breakdown of which receivers Revis covered.
Cumberland = 1 snap, Gates = 7, Hill = 8, Holmes = 27, Kerley = 6, Powell = 1, Smith = 2, Spadola = 3
BleedsGreen&WhiteIs Tone in someones doghouse? He didn't play much.
He actually made some comments about that today, although they were somewhat contradictory. He basically said he wanted to play more but was glad that they won, so it didn't matter. Then he also said he doesn't expect to play as much when Kerley is healthy so he isn't sure that will happen tomorrow. He played 44 snaps.
a57se How did Howard start the season last year?
He struggled badly at the start of the year. Cameron Wake beat him outside over and over again. However, he really turned a corner from that point onwards.
Gang Green CaptainI want a gif of Colon blocking them 3 guys NOW! NOW NOW NOW
Your wish is my command. I think this is my best work...
1/12/69-OrangeBowlI thought Gates would be more of a factor in this game and also moving forward. I wasn't at the game, just got the TV view. I'd like to know if Gates created separation and got open, or was he covered well?
You'll note from the examples above that he was open on one play and well-covered on another. There was one other play where the announcers highlighted him running open on a post pattern and calling for the ball, but Smith did not make the throw. I guess we should expect a bigger role with Kerley out.
It seemed to me during the game that Geno may have been playing overly cautious. He seemed to be somewhat tentative going to his first read and was generally trying to either check down, or buy himself time so he would have a clear lane to make a throw from someone finding space during a scramble situation rather than make a rhythm/timing throw. Did you happen to notice this? Was the Bucs coverage that tight or was he trying to make sure he avoided mistakes?
As shown from the examples above, there were some gaps in their defense that he was unable to exploit, but I'm sure that he was being cautious as you described and that this was part of the gameplan.
ReprocityWas Revis playing man or zone more and did they run any crossing routes or comeback routes at him? I thought the quick slants worked to his favor since it's such a short pass. Were there more challenging routes they could have ran at him?
He played a little of both. I don't blame them for going after the quick slants, because as long as you account for anyone dropping off it's usually a safe throw where you can see whether the receiver is open or not. That's certainly somewhere that Revis has given up yardage in the past. Even though he's one of the best at covering it, that's one of the higher percentage and tougher to cover routes out there. They forced Revis to run at times, but were reluctant to test him down the field, as anticipated. They could have tested him more, but I think they were more than happy to just run a few safe passes in his direction just to ensure the Bucs couldn't be certain they weren't avoiding him altogether.
NewSCThink they will start rotating in Winters as they did with Vlad last season? Also wondering, were there any runs outside the hashes, other than the Kerley wildcat? I don't recall seeing any.
Based on what I saw in preseason, Winters simply isn't ready and would get eaten alive. However, hopefully he will improve over time and make up for the time he lost and any physical effects from his injury that slowed his progress, so maybe this will happen at some point. I doubt they would want him to enter his second season with no experience at all, so it will be interesting to see what happens if they are involved in some blowouts or if they fall out of contention.
The ran four times off-tackle, for 19 yards. Two of these were runs which started off outside and then cut back and one started off up the middle and was bounced outside.
a57seDid MM keep the running plays the Jets have done best on over the last couple seasons or did he scrap the old completely?
I believe it was Brandon Moore who once said that pretty much every team in the league runs variations of the same five basic running plays. The Jets used the "blast" play, which was a staple of the Jets running game under Schottenheimer and was also used under Sparano, extensively in preseason. I haven't seen them run the "swerve" yet though.
M_SlenderI'm not sure if it was visible on tv, but being at the game we saw a lot of plays where it seemed like to us, there were open receivers downfield and Smith didn't see them or didn't throw to them for whatever reason. is this something that you can review?
See the examples higher up.
Phil TI know this all about the Jets, but I am curious on how many snaps did Revis play? I believe it was 50-60%.
55. He was rested on 22. What a slouch.
jetsfan74Can you tell us how often Geno faced 8 in the box? I'm guessing they were focused on stopping the run. Where they moving a safety down? Is that why the middle of the field seemed to be where Geno was completing his "longer" passes, and is why Winslow had a great game?
No, I would attribute that mostly to them drawing the safeties out of the middle by running clear-out routes.
Out of 77 snaps, the Bucs had a safety in the box (within eight yards of the line of scrimmage) on 31. They also had a safety covering up on the slot man (therefore in better position to help with the run) on another six.
a57seWhat was their longest drive? I don't think they moved the ball more then 40 yards on any one drive...
The three field goal drives went 55, 65 and 50 yards. The touchdown drive was only 31 yards, but they went backwards on their first play, so they actually had to travel 49 yards from that point.