Welcome to BGA Extra, where I draw a line under the previous weekend’s game by responding to your questions from Bent’s Game Analysis during the week. After the jump, I respond to your questions about the loss to the Bengals. If you would like your questions answered in future, remember to read my BGA game breakdowns every Monday and leave your question in the comments section.

JetsFanSince98 •

Has an NFL team ever completed an entire season alternating Wins and Losses?

It doesn't appear so, but there are some recent near-equivalents. From the start of the Eastern Confernce Finals last season, the Heat won, then lost, then won, then lost and the pattern continued for 13 games. The streak ended in game seven of the finals where a loss would have handed the Spurs the title, but the Heat managed to gut out a 95-88 win. So, maybe this is an omen and the Jets are going to win a title. As DarrolRayFanClub pointed out in the comments, the Jets could theoretically reach the AFC Title game by winning every other week, since their bye week and first round bye would fall on an evenly numbered week. They'd need to earn a first placed bye with a 9-7 record though, so (as if it wasn't already so) this is pretty unlikely.

Another similar example saw the Chicago Cubs alternate wins and losses throughout the first 21 games of the 2011 season. This wasn't a perfect WLWLWL pattern, but they were never more than a game above or below .500 until they lost their 22nd game to drop to 10-12. Maybe that's an omen too. (The Cubs ended up 20 games below .500).

muhammad_wilkerson •

1. The NFL punishes teams for winning more than any other league, with draft ordering and strength of schedule. I wonder how coaches manage the short term/long term trade-off given this. The Jets are in danger of going 8-8 or 9-7, which in some respects is the worst position to be in. What are your thoughts on this? Is this potentially part of the motivation to develop young players rather than start the best 11 every week?

2. Is there even the slightest chance that the Bucs, after a horrible season, decide to let Revis and his enormous contract go?

3. Related to question 2, if you had to guess, how much could Revis have affected Sunday's game? It felt to me like one of those games where Revis could have stopped 3 or 4 of those touchdowns. It seemed like every play, A.J. Green got open immediately, and everything else became a mess as a result. If you put Revis in there and he literally takes A.J. Green out of every single play, resulting in double-coverage on Marvin Jones and Dalton having to hold the ball longer, it seems like just about every passing play is different.

1. I still think you're better off with a mediocre record than ending up with four or five wins. Yes, you're a few places better off in the draft, but what if that means you end up with Dee Milliner instead of Sheldon Richardson? I think it's a lot better to finish off with a competitive record so that you can evaluate your roster in meaningful games and also convince free agents that you're capable of being a contender going forward. Obviously finishing 5-11 doesn't mean you're not going to contend (look at the Chiefs for an extreme example) but finishing 9-7 would go a long way towards improving the media-fuelled external perception of the team and the internal motivation of seeing progression. Long term v short term is always a trade-off between GM and coach and between those who are secure in their jobs and those that need instant results to retain theirs.

2. There's every chance.

3. All else being equal, Revis - or even a healthy Cromartie (or if you don't think his injury is a viable excuse, a 2012 Cromartie) - would have made an enormous difference. If you can contain the number one threat without giving your top corner any safety support, that makes it a lot easier to redeploy your personnel and set traps in coverage. The Jets were pretty flat, but they would have been less demoralized and though they probably still lose, I doubt it would have been anywhere near as bad.

a57se •

You seem to be providing a lot of support for Wilkerson's statement that the secondary needs to slow up the other teams WR for a second otherwise it is a waste of time to rush the passer. For as quickly as Dalton was getting rid of the ball, his receivers had to get free releases to get in position to catch the ball. Is this an adjustment the Jets have to make? It seems like, if they don't start re-routing WR's, they're going to continue to get burned.

Yes, this makes perfect sense to me. Jam them at the line and then it's not quite so easy to complete passes while releasing the ball before the rush can get there. A lot of people have asked about this, so I'll be referring back to this comment a lot.

McGeorge •

Is Geno improving? He still holds onto the ball for a long time, and makes some really dumb plays. I don't care if the Jets lose 49-9 as long as he and Milliner and the others improve.

Obviously he's been up, then down, then up again and so on, but I'd like to think he's on a slight upward trend overall. He's going to have bad days and make dumb plays, but if that's mixed in with some good days and some positive plays, then I can live with it. I hope to continue to see improvements in certain areas (example: ball security) from week to week, while avoiding making the same mistakes over and over.

Tk •

What type of coverages were the Jets running for the majority of the game? I know they like the cover 1 and even zero coverage and I'm assuming that's what they were going with. My question, why stay with that coverage when your CB's are getting burned all game? Why not show more of a cover 2 look and give help over the top and let the defensive line worry about the run? It was pretty clear the CB's couldn't handle the Bengals WRs one v one so why not give them help?

They only had both safeties outside the box (more than eight yards off the line of scrimmage) on 13 plays by my count. I agree that simplifying things was something they perhaps didn't do enough of, but then again perhaps they felt they would be vulnerable underneath and that may even have proved to be the case on a few occasions. The Jets clearly underestimated the Bengals passing attack, which is a mistake they've made in the past.

Brendan •

Do you guys think the media sits in their booth and has open discussions about what they want to write about this week? The unoriginality in the media ranks is staggering.

To be fair, a lot of the time when you see one person do a story on (say) Santonio Holmes then it suddenly seems like all the other beat writers write a version of the same story, that's because it's dictated by who has been made available to them. I don't doubt that they spend a lot of time together and have reached a group consensus on certain issues, but then again that can be entertaining to look back on, since the team is obviously not the trainwreck they'd all decided it would be (Sunday's performance notwithstanding).

Beamen321 •

How much of the Jets problems in Pass Defense is the fault of the CB and how much is the fault of the Safeties? It appears to me that the CBs are getting virtually no help over the top from the Safeties and I'm not sure it's by design. Is Landry just too slow to play "Centerfield"? In Baltimore that job would have gone to Reed.

That wasn't necessarily always the case. Reed is so good in coverage that he was often moved up into the box to play man-to-man on passing downs with Landry playing deep. Landry actually played more snaps at free safety than Reed in 2009 and 2010 (although Reed did miss some time in 2010) and had two seasons where he intercepted five passes. Of course, he's a little older now, but he has the range to cover a simple deep safety role - from my observations, most of the times where he didn't get over in time were because he reacted late or got drawn out of position rather than just not having the athletic ability.

I'd attribute most of the issues to the cornerbacks, definitely, and sometimes it is by design because the Jets do run some blitz packages with no safety support, designed to get their linemen into one-on-ones.

Jeff •

I didn't watch the game, but I was listening to it on the radio. I remember Greg Buttle mentioning how it seemed the Bengals just had a perfect call for everything the Jets D called up in pass defense. He mentioned that sometimes teams get lucky and the stars align sometimes, so perhaps on any other Sunday Dalton wouldn't have looked like Peyton Manning. So my question is, how can the Jets disrupt a quick passing attack? Clearly Dalton leads the league in time of snap to throw. Is there any way we can stifle our upcoming opponents since players like this (Ryan, Locker) have killed us too. Don't forget Brees also releases his passes mighty quick.

The Buttle comments are interesting, especially since that's almost word for word how Rex described Sunday's game. If the quarterback is getting the ball out early and still having success then you need to get closer to the receivers at the line and disrupt their patterns, prevent a clean release and create the threat of being able to jump a route.

'NYCPE'inGermany •

Is Andy Dalton the second coming of Tom Brady? While I believe I already know the answer to that, I was amazed at how good he looked against our D. Was he just playing out of his mind or were the stars and luck aligned perfectly for him to have the day that he had? What do you think we can do different if all teams with at least a decent QB employ the same get rid of the ball quick strategy?

Dalton was way better than Brady was in any game so far this year - including the two against the Jets. As noted above, physical press coverage at the line would have at least given the pass rush a chance at pressuring more throws.

Bill in Saratoga •

The safety play has definitely taken a step back from last year which was an improvement over the year before. It seems that Allen has the potential to improve but do you think he will ever be able to take over the play calling and leadership in this defense? It seems like Rex's defense is run the best when there is a play caller on the field. Is Landry having trouble getting to where he needs to be because he is reacting to late or is he trying to make up for other peoples mistakes?

I actually don't agree. I think Dawan Landry is at least as good as Yeremiah Bell and you could make a case that Antonio Allen has been better than LaRon Landry was last year because he doesn't make as many mistakes or commit penalties. Jarrett is a nice third option too. I don't know enough about Allen's intelligence and instincts to make a judgment on whether he could fill that "QB of the secondary" role down the line, but I think he's exceeded expectations with his performance so far this year. As for Landry, I did note above that there have been some plays where he reacted late, but for the most part he has been disciplined and kept things in front of him, which is the main thing you need from your deep safety.

Bill in Saratoga •

I thought David Nelson was one of the few players to play well this week. He took a rough hit early and that seemed to light a fire. He was very physical. Is that typical play for him? Is that something we will see more of? Was the penalty that he drew a late hit or a questionable hit? His play this week is what Rex means when he says "Play like a Jet". I hope he stays around.

I like Nelson too. Seems like a great guy, with heart. He did get involved in a skirmish with Ike Taylor two weeks ago too, so he's bringing the fire and showing he wants to be there. The penalty saw him bump Pacman Jones who fell to the ground and was all set to retaliate when his teammate intervened. Rich Cimini reviewed the film for ESPN New York said this was a flop by Jones and that Jones' claims that Nelson had hit him late and dirty four times were totally unfounded. I think the penalty was fair anyway, flop or no flop, but I agree with Cimini's take on Nelson's so-called dirty play.

MrM •

I gotta get some BGA analysis on the Cro pass interference call in the 1st. On TV it looked like he barely touched the guy. Does the tape show the play being a bit more serious than what the TV coverage revealed?

Looks like he grabbed him on the shoulder pad - something he's been doing a lot lately - but it was a very ticky tack call. I'm actually not convinced the pass was catchable, so he didn't need to make that grab. He was beaten though - and a perfect pass would have been a touchdown for a guy not regarded as a deep threat.

dave from haifa •

How many Ryan Bowls have there been?

Just four - and Rex has won all four. The overtime win over the Browns (Holmes game winning touchdown) in 2010 and the opening day win over the Cowboys with Revis' interception setting up Folk's game winning field goal are obviously fresh in the memory, but Rex's Ravens also beat Rob's Raiders 28-6 in 2006 and 29-10 in 2008.

Disgruntled Jets Fan •

The main reason the Jets weren’t able to generate pressure on Dalton was because he got rid of the ball almost immediately on a high percentage of his throws. Clearly the book on the Jets is to get rid of the ball quickly, taking advantage of a secondary that is not very aggressive. In the past Rex was able to adjust to the team's weaknesses, but this may be his biggest challenge yet. Do you think the Jets have the personnel to stop a quick, accurate quarterback?

If Cromartie were 100% that would make things a lot easier. Also, I still think there are better options to start than Dee Milliner if they want to maximize their chances of winning at this point of the season. This team had the number one defense with Drew Coleman, a past-his-prime Lito Sheppard and Dwight Lowery playing major reps. I'm of the mind that their current personnel is better ... you just can't play the same way if you don't have a Revis. Right now, unfortunately, Cromartie isn't even a poor man's Revis and everything else suffers because of that.

levi •

What the hell went wrong and why could they not stop the bleeding?

Even Rex couldn't answer that one. If it's any consolation, the Bengals are probably going to have just as much trouble figuring out what went so right.

jetsman24 •

From my observation, it doesn't look as if Milliner is getting beaten because he can't run or doesn't know what's going on, but that he's just a step behind every play. Would you attribute Milliner's struggles to being hesitant and overwhelmed by NFL receivers, or to his failure to actually make the proper play? In other words, are his current struggles physical or mental?

He's displayed bad technique at times, but he's capable of playing with good technique and obviously has athleticism, so I would say it's mostly mental. It bears repeating, but Nick Saban coaches slightly different techniques for his defensive backs and there's almost always an adjustment period until they "get it".

BrooklynDude99 •

Rex doesn't blitz his DB's as much as he used to, but has he stopped doing it completely?

On Sunday, the defensive backs combined for six pass rush attempts. For the year, it's 52. While that's 6.5 on average, Sunday was actually more than the average on a per snap basis. Extrapolate 52 to a full season and you get 104, which compares with the previous Rex regular seasons thusly: 2012 (157), 2011 (241), 2010 (381), 2009 (299).

Of course, that's a natural progression towards a situation where you can generate pressure without blitzing. However, right now the extra bodies in the secondary aren't helping them much in coverage.

BrooklynDude99 •

I thought the Bengal TE's would have some success against the Jets. Was it something we did or were they just being used to help block or did Marvin Jones just make them an after thought?

Amazingly, Jones did all that damage in 19 snaps, so he wasn't having a major effect on their overall gameplan. They did stay in to block 13 times between them, but still ran 39 routes so you might expect more than seven targets for a combined four catches and 37 yards. The Jets mixed up who was covering them (and how) but for the most part they were well covered, to the point where there were double teams happening where one of those players might have been better served giving one of the corners downfield support.

By-Tor •

Given that it looks like the Bengals created a game plan to get rid of the ball quickly and Dalton succeeded in doing so, I think we have to give a lot of credit to their coaching staff. If you were the OC and DC of the Jets, what type of game plan would you have put together to beat the 'gals? What should we do for the Saints?

Defensively, they needed to press better. I'm not sure that wasn't in the gameplan already, they just should have done a better job of it. I haven't finished my research on the Saints yet, so I'll abstain from answering that, but on the basis they're a similar offensive team to the Falcons (multiple weapons, pass first, receiving TE threat), I'd imagine the plan for the Falcons game is somewhere close to the approach they're going to have to take.

I'm getting a similar vibe for this game to the last time these teams met, in Mark Sanchez's rookie season. Nobody really gave the Jets a chance (even though they were 3-0) but it actually proved to be a pretty tight game, hinging almost entirely on two Sanchez turnovers; a 99-yard pick six and a fumble in the end zone. I'd therefore probably suggest a conservative gameplan, but with a mix of downfield throws that won't put the Saints in scoring position even if they do get intercepted.

DMike •

That was ugly, sorry you had to rematch it. Which was more painful to give the BGA treatment, Offense or Defense?

Offense. I love line play and the defensive line played well, but the offensive line ... did not.

SackDance99 •

We'll have to check the coaches film, but I thought the first INT was supposed to go to Nelson, but Crocker left Kerley and jumped the route. If the pass was meant for Kerley, then it was both a miscommunication and a terrible throw. I thought from the trajectory of the throw, it was going to be a low back shoulder throw and a completion to Nelson, who had effectively trapped the DB behind him.

I can't tell for sure, but it looks like you might be right. That being the case, Kerley definitely ran the wrong route because that pass would be impossible to make with Kerley's defender in the area. Either way, it looks like Kerley was at fault.

McGeorge •

I realize offensive linemen take a while to learn their position, but how long does it take on average? Should we expect Winters to be ok next year? By the end of next year?

I really think it depends. Let's compare Winters to Matt Slauson. There's a guy who probably would have struggled just like Winters has if he had to start as a rookie. However, he just played emergency reps and ended up being a solid starter in year two. Now, let's compare him to Vlad. He barely played until last year and didn't stick as the starter. If you're looking for examples of guys who started and struggled as rookies, three that spring to mind are Jason Pinkston, Will Rackley and Amini Silatolu. Unfortunately, the returns on these three are not good. Pinkston and Rackley are no longer starting and Silatolu tore his ACL. He did look better in his second year, though.

I thought Winters was a year away when I saw his rookie highlight reel and nothing I've seen this preseason or regular season has changed that.

jetsman24 •

Just from my limited analysis, it seems to me that when opposing defenses constantly bring pressure from sources outside the front seven, Geno struggles to make the proper read. The best examples of this are Tennessee and Pittsburgh, both with tough, physical safeties, and both frequently send blitzers from the secondary. Does this fall on Geno's shoulders, or does Mornhinweg need to leave an extra man into block on potential blitz plays?

Sometimes Mornhinweg HAS left an extra man in, but the pressure still came. On the first play of the game, Zach Sudfeld stayed in but ended up blocking someone up the middle and left the guy coming off the edge unblocked. It's something Smith and his blockers could both do a better job of.

DarrolRayFanClub •

In the last three years, the Jets have given up 45+ points in a game. When they lost 45-3 to NE in 2010, they were 9-2 and coming off a trip to the AFC CG -- so while they were extremely sluggish the next few weeks and things felt low, it was easier to regain some tread by the time the inevitable post-season came around, and they obviously had the cushion to do so. The following season they seemed a little more fragile when they got blown out 45-19 to the Eagles and they couldn't recover from the sluggish next few games and it was a full collapse. Last year's NE 49-19 loss came when they were 4-6 and hoping to turn things around, and while they won the next two games against bad teams thanks to the defense, they were sluggish and their psyche was shot, and they collapsed. Do you get the feeling this 49-9 loss will have any impact on the psyche of this team, like it did in the previous three years? I guess the bye week will help but we could be looking at a 31-3 loss on Sunday if history repeats itself.

Well, I can't predict the future, but this is definitely something we should be wary of. As you note, the bye week perhaps comes at a good time and also this team has been resilient in terms of bouncing back with a good performance following a loss.

Midwest Jet •

It seemed as if the jets didn't take any shots down the field while Geno was playing. I swear I saw multiple times where Stephen Hill had 1 on 1 coverage deep. As the Bengals showed, you have to keep the defense honest by throwing some deep passes. I don't understand why the jets went away from that.

Yes, that's what they were looking for on that first play of the game that I reference above. Smith had to throw the ball away. Last week, the Jets threw deep to Hill unsuccessfully, but it did contribute to stretching the field and opening up some things underneath. I guess the Bengals did a good job of generating pressure at the right times to prevent any downfield throws - or maybe the playcalling went into a shell and/or Smith got a bit gunshy once they fell behind.

a57se •

Geno seemed to be checking the ball down most of the first half, can you tell from the All-22 tape if he left some other plays on the field?

There was one - in the second quarter - where Jeremy Kerley ran a post corner route and had a step on his man with the safety too far over in the middle of the field. Smith opted for the safer short throw to Nelson for six or seven yards. Other than that, the Bengals did one of two things - they dropped their safeties back very deep or brought a blitz to force a quick throw. Most of the checkdowns he did were probably the right decision.

a57se •

It seems like the Jets set up Vlad to fail the first few games and now are doing everything they can to protect Winters. You mentioned earlier in the season that Vlad was getting very little help when he was playing while Winters is getting help all the time. Is this perception that far from reality?

Nope.

a57se •

Bohanon has looked worse then John Conner or Lex Hilliard did to me. I am being overly negative here?

He hasn't looked that bad and at least he had four good games to start the year. He's another player (the other being Powell, whose average per carry has dropped from 4.4 yards over the first four games to 2.7 over the last four) whose sudden downturn in form coincides with Winters' insertion into the lineup.

a57se •

Do you believe (I know you have not stated this and I don't mean to imply you have) the Jets coaching staff was 100% responsible for the Winters move or Milliner getting the playing time he has?

No. In fact, I'd suggest it more likely comes from someone higher up.

MEL31602 •

Since you said yourself that Hill's hands have been better, to what do you attribute his lack of production. Is he having issues getting open? Or is Geno just not seeing him on the field?

Also, please don't act like the Jets are the only team to start a subpar player just because he was a high draft pick. Winters and Millner are clearly the future, so the Jets may as well play them now since they are not making a deep playoff run anyway. Rather have them work out the kinks now than next year when we (hopefully) have one or two more weapons and are thus more cut out for a playoff push. Could you imagine if Millner cost us a playoff game with his poor coverage? That's less likely if he gets experience now in less meaningful games.

I do acknowledge and understand the reasoning behind getting Milliner as much playing time as possible, but I disagree that doing this to the detriment of their chances of winning games is an acceptable cost. And if it is, then why would you bench him just as you're about to go three scores down? Surely if the game is over, that's a perfect time to get him more reps?

As a fan, I just don't like to believe that the Jets are completely incapable of making a run. They're 4-4 and have an easier schedule after the bye. They were 4-6 in 2009 and still in late contention in 2011 and 2012 despite being 5-5 and 4-7 respectively.

You're right, it may pay off in the long run and these guys are probably the future (although "clearly" may be overstating it at this point). I want to believe the Jets can still compete now and still develop those guys though.

Back to the first part of your question, I think teams have started to gameplan for Hill and now it's up to the Jets to capitalize on this. Winslow and Holmes being out makes a massive difference to their ability to do that. Lack of deep balls is always down to some combination of playcalling, receivers not being open and the quarterback being gunshy. I've seen Hill get behind enough defenders this year to know that teams will recognize he's a threat.

Phil T. •

Why don't the Jets WR run more double-moves? DB's are clearly watching Geno's eyes and stare downs.

You're absolutely right and I've seen several plays in recent weeks where a double move would have worked like a charm. Maybe this is a tendency Marty is setting up to attack a specific upcoming opponent with over-aggressive corners. Once again, Winslow and Holmes' return will make this easier by creating more of a reliable underneath threat.

stanleybostitch •

Well, I guess it's always darkest before dawn. But where is this team in actuality? Bent, Basset, are you guys planning a half-season eval type of post that maybe looks ahead to the draft? Seems like the D-line is legit, though missing Barnes; the secondary needs an overhaul, esp the corners (turn your head around!); the O-line will be fine once Winters/Vlad comes around (Bent: who would you go with at this point?); the receivers are mediocre, at best; the backs are mediocre, at best; and the QB. Geno is a rookie and as such has shown flashes of brilliance along with awful decision making. Is he someone we build around? Too early to tell? After losses like this my mind turns to the draft and whether we go skill player (Geno a keeper) or QB (or not) early. So frustrating - but hey, we're Jets fans.

We don't have anything specific planned, but we usually do something like that at the midpoint of the season. Due to the timing of the bye week, that's probably when you'll get some of that, assuming Bassett's back in the rotation. At guard, I think Ducasse deserves another shot based on what we're seeing on Sundays, but who knows what's happening in practice? And, yes, it's too early to tell. Of course it is!

R in CT - via e-mail

I know we've talked about it before, but the record of the Jets under Rex at 1 pm. vs. 4 pm & primetime is always interesting. (I don't have it at my fingertips, but playing at 1 they are dramatically over .500). I think this year they are 2-2 in both slots but considering that 7 of the last 8 are at 1 pm bodes well for a strong finish ...

That wasn't a question, but hopefully it does give an extra reason for hope. They can establish a good routine after the bye and maybe go streaking!

FWIW - In the Rex era, the Jets were 22-10 at 1pm and 5-10 at 4pm entering this season. They're 2-1 at 1pm this year and 1-2 at 4pm, so the discrepancy is now 24-11 at 1pm and 6-12 at 4pm. Let's hope that pattern holds in the second half!

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That's it for this week. Thank you for your great questions and comments. I'll be back on Sunday to preview the Saints game.

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SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano and SNY NFL Draft Expert Rich Cirminiello discuss who the Jets will take in the third round of the draft.

The bulk of the attention has been on who the Jets will do with the No. 3 overall pick in Thursday night's NFL Draft.

It will be a quarterback. But which one? At least two of Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, and Josh Rosen will be available when the Jets pick.

Lost in the shuffle a bit has been the fact that the Jets have a third round pick (72nd overall) as well. And SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano and SNY NFL Draft Expert Rich Cirminiello recently discussed who the Jets could take with that pick.

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Top QB prospect Baker Mayfield 00:01:01
Former Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield is expected to be taken as one of the top QB's in the 2018 NFL Draft.

What is NFL Draft week without some drama over the No. 1 pick?

With reports circulating Monday that Wyoming QB Josh Allen is no longer in consideration for the Browns' No. 1 pick, ESPN's Adam Schefter is now reporting that Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield is "definitely" in the conversation. 

Schefter continues by saying the Browns may have their choice in mind for their first overall pick, and before that decision was made, Mayfield was a player in the mix.

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Nick Mangold retires from NFL 00:02:30
After spending eleven seasons with the Jets, Nick Mangold announces his retirement from the NFL.

Nick Mangold, who spent 11 seasons with the Jets, announced his retirement at the team's facility after signing a one-day contract on Tuesday. 

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Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan discusses the team's strategy for its No. 3 overall pick with the draft just a few days away.

New York Jets' Jamal Adams (33) and Los Angeles Chargers' Sean McGrath (84) fight for control of the ball during the second half of an NFL football game Sunday, Dec. 24, 2017, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun) (Bill Kostroun/AP)
New York Jets' Jamal Adams (33) and Los Angeles Chargers' Sean McGrath (84) fight for control of the ball during the second half of an NFL football game Sunday, Dec. 24, 2017, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun) (Bill Kostroun/AP)

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The Jets own the third pick in this year's draft, their highest since 1996. How have they drafted in the first round over the past five years?

2017: Safety Jamal Adams, No. 6

It's too early to tell how Adams' career will pan out, but the signs so far have been promising. He started every game in his rookie year as the Jets' secondary definitely played better than it had in 2016. On the field, Adams had his ups and downs, but he showed flashes of brilliance in a versatile role. Off the field, he's played a big part in the ongoing culture change that has galvanized the team and has also been a useful tool in player recruitment.

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Nov 18, 2017; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Southern California Trojans quarterback Sam Darnold (right) and UCLA Bruins quarterback Josh Rosen (3) shake hands after their game at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Mandatory Credit: Kelvin Kuo-USA TODAY Sports (Kelvin Kuo)
Nov 18, 2017; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Southern California Trojans quarterback Sam Darnold (right) and UCLA Bruins quarterback Josh Rosen (3) shake hands after their game at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Mandatory Credit: Kelvin Kuo-USA TODAY Sports (Kelvin Kuo)

It will be an absolute stunner if the Jets don't take a quarterback after trading up to No. 3 in the NFL Draft, which takes place on Thursday night in Dallas.

So, who will it be?

At least two out of the group of Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen will be available for the Jets. 

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Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen runs a drill at the NFL football scouting combine in Indianapolis, Saturday, March 3, 2018. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy) (Michael Conroy/AP)
Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen runs a drill at the NFL football scouting combine in Indianapolis, Saturday, March 3, 2018. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy) (Michael Conroy/AP)

The Browns' choices for their No. 1 pick seem to have come down to two choices just three days away from the NFL Draft: Sam Darnold or Josh Allen?

Yes, there is always the prospect of the Browns going with RB Saquon Barkley with their first overall selection, knowing they have the No. 4 pick later on. However, experts including SI's Peter King see Cleveland getting their quarterback first before addressing anywhere else. 

Recently, rumblings about Allen going No. 1 have gained some steam. But King's most trusted source says Allen is too much of a risk, and the Browns don't want to get another quarterback pick wrong.

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Broadway Joe loves Broadway Baker. Or at least that's what could be Baker Mayfield's nickname if the Jets were to select him with their No. 3 overall pick. 

Hall of Famer and former Jets QB Joe Namath loves what he has seen from Mayfield over the years of watching him play. He recently watched the Georgia-Oklahoma College Football Playoff matchup at the Rose Bowl on New Year's Eve, and after his daughter asked if he had seen anything like the back-and-forth bout, he responded saying he wouldn't want to be going up against Mayfield...


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The Jets have not stopped looking for help on their defensive line as they hosted numerous free-agent linemen on Monday. 

Former Bears DT Lamarr Houston and former Patriots DT Chris Jones were among those looking to impress the Jets. Houston split time with the Bears and Texans last season, totaling five sacks over 10 games. A former second-round pick by the Raiders back in 2010, Houston is entering his ninth season in the NFL this year. 

Jones played for the division-rival Patriots in 2013 and 2014, where he finished with nine sacks and 79 tackles over 28 career games. He most recently played for the 49ers in 2016, where he had 17 tackles over six games. He did not play for an NFL squad in 2017. 

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New York Jets defensive end Leonard Williams on the sidelines during the third quarter against the Buffalo Bills at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Jets defensive end Leonard Williams on the sidelines during the third quarter against the Buffalo Bills at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)

The Jets have officially picked up DL Leonard Williams' fifth-year option, keeping Williams with the team through 2019 at least. 

Williams, 23, the sixth overall pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, will make $14.2 million in 2019, assuming he's considered a defensive end. If they try to say he's a defensive tackle, the contract will be $11.4 million, according to SNY's Ralph Vacchiano. The contract becomes fully guaranteed next March.

"It's definitely time to step up and take it to the next level," Williams said last week via Vacchiano. "That comes with a lot. It's just not my play on the field. It comes with my leadership, how I approach work, how much time I'm putting in outside of the mandatory hours into my craft, into my game."

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Who will the Jets select #3? 00:05:13
SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano and SNY NFL Draft Expert Rich Cirminiello discuss who the Jets will select third overall in the NFL Draft.

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In less than a week, Jets GM Mike Maccagnan will make the most important draft pick of his tenure with the team, the one that surely will define his legacy.

No pressure, right?

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Tulane Green Wave cornerback Parry Nickerson returns his interception against the Connecticut Huskies in the second quarter at Rentschler Field. (David Butler II/USA TODAY Sports)
Tulane Green Wave cornerback Parry Nickerson returns his interception against the Connecticut Huskies in the second quarter at Rentschler Field. (David Butler II/USA TODAY Sports)

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Over the last few weeks, we looked at some of the players who have been invited to attend an official pre-draft visit with the Jets. With the visits ending earlier this week, let's take a final look at a selection of the players New York brought in.

Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane

Nickerson is a four-year starter who was a constant standout on the Tulane defense. During his career, he recorded 16 interceptions, broke up another 31 passes and scored two defensive touchdowns. He turned heads at the scouting combine when he ran a 4.32 40-yard dash.

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Jonas Schwartz and Willie Colon are ready to open their present that is the #3 pick in the NFL Draft. The guys discuss the possibility of the Jets trading up, yet again, and the crazy idea of selecting a non-QB (can someone say Bradley Chubb) with the 3rd overall selection. Plus, former NFL QB Dan Orlovsky calls in to give his insight into the top four quarterbacks.

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The Jets will open the 2018 season in Detroit against the Lions on Monday night football, and finish things in Week 17 on the road against the Patriots.

Their entire 2018 schedule has been confirmed by SNY's Ralph Vacchiano, and is below...

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Jan 1, 2018; Pasadena, CA, USA; Oklahoma Sooners quarterback Baker Mayfield (6) passes against the Georgia Bulldogs in the first quarter in the 2018 Rose Bowl college football playoff semifinal game at Rose Bowl Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports (Kirby Lee)
Jan 1, 2018; Pasadena, CA, USA; Oklahoma Sooners quarterback Baker Mayfield (6) passes against the Georgia Bulldogs in the first quarter in the 2018 Rose Bowl college football playoff semifinal game at Rose Bowl Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports (Kirby Lee)

Former QB Dan Orlovsky thinks the Jets are targeting Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield with the No. 3 pick in the Draft, and one of the reasons is very specific.

Orlovsky, who played under Kyle Shanahan, noted that Jets OC Jeremy Bates is from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree. And that one of the traits Shanahan loved about John Elway is that he would screw his back foot into the ground when he threw -- adding that Bates loves that trait in quarterbacks as well. 

"There's one guy in the Draft who has that trait," Orlovsky said earlier this week on SNY's Jet Stream podcast. "And it's Baker Mayfield. He does the same thing when he throws. And I just think that those coaches fall in love with traits of guys that remind them of players that they had success with in the past. I think that they're looking at Baker Mayfield and going 'that's our guy.'"

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Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield drops back to pass against Ohio State during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Sept. 9, 2017, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete) (Jay LaPrete/AP)
Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield drops back to pass against Ohio State during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Sept. 9, 2017, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete) (Jay LaPrete/AP)

Projecting trades in a Mock Draft is a futile effort. There are too many variables and rumors. It's mostly speculation. And really, it's just an exercise in fantasy football.

But … well, who doesn't love fantasy football?

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Oct 14, 2017; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Southern California Trojans quarterback Sam Darnold. (Kirby Lee)
Oct 14, 2017; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Southern California Trojans quarterback Sam Darnold. (Kirby Lee)

In his latest mock draft, Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer has the Jets taking Sam Darnold as their quarterback of the future at No. 3. 

Many experts believe Darnold could be the first overall pick by the Browns, and if he doesn't land with Cleveland, then the Giants would scoop him up at No. 2. However, with Josh Allen as Breer's No. 1 pick and the Giants electing to go with Saquon Barkley over a quarterback, Darnold drops in the Jets' lap. 

So, there is no need for the Jets to choose between Josh Rosen or Baker Mayfield...

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Mangold's Hall of Fame chances 00:04:59
Dan Graca and Jon Hein debate over Nick Mangold's chances at making the Hall of Fame and the Devils' chances at beating the Lightning.

After a year out of football, No. 74 is officially hanging up the cleats. 

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | Archive: On the lists of favorite players and all-time greats, you'll rarely find a center. They're buried in the trenches, often noticed only when a bad snap happens or a defensive tackle breaks through.

The same was probably true for Nick Mangold during his 11 NFL seasons - rarely noticed from the outside and incredibly underappreciated game to game. Yet somehow he still emerged from his long career as a fan favorite. And he definitely emerged as one of the Jets' all-time greats.

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New York Jets defensive end Leonard Williams gestures while jogging on the field prior to the game against the Buffalo Bills at New Era Field. (Rich Barnes/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Jets defensive end Leonard Williams gestures while jogging on the field prior to the game against the Buffalo Bills at New Era Field. (Rich Barnes/USA TODAY Sports)

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Jets GM Mike Maccagnan made it clear he had no worries about the state of the Jets' defensive line heading into the offseason. Sure, they've lost a lot of talent in recent years, trading Sheldon Richardson, cutting Muhammad Wilkerson and not re-signing Damon Harrison.

But they still have Leonard Williams, the sixth pick of the 2015 draft, and despite a down season last year, the Jets have huge expectations for him.

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Los Angeles Chargers kicker Nick Rose attempts a field goal during an NFL game against the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium. (Kirby Lee/USA TODAY Sports)
Los Angeles Chargers kicker Nick Rose attempts a field goal during an NFL game against the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium. (Kirby Lee/USA TODAY Sports)

The Jets were awarded kicker Nick Rose on Monday after the Los Angeles Chargers placed him on waivers, the team announced.

Rose made 11 of 14 field goals in 10 games with the Chargers and Washington Redskins last season and converted on 23 of 26 extra points. He went 1-for-3 as a member of the Chargers in Weeks 16 and 17, and 10-for-11 in eight games with Washington. His longest make last year was 55 yards.

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Brian Winters remembers everything about the moment his 2017 season went off the rails. He remembers the time, the place, the play, and without question, the pain.

"It was second quarter in Oakland (in Week 2) with five minutes to go before half when we were driving in to the north end zone. I still remember it like it was yesterday," said the 26-year-old guard. "It was an outside zone play and (running back) Bilal (Powell) was trying to stretch it outside of me, so I went to continue to push my guy through. And as soon as I pushed through I felt like a pop."

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Oklahoma Sooners wide receiver Jeff Badet catches a touchdown pass against Texas Longhorns defensive back Kris Boyd in the second quarter at the Cotton Bowl. (Tim Heitman/USA TODAY Sports)
Oklahoma Sooners wide receiver Jeff Badet catches a touchdown pass against Texas Longhorns defensive back Kris Boyd in the second quarter at the Cotton Bowl. (Tim Heitman/USA TODAY Sports)

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Last week, we looked at some of the players who have been invited to attend an official pre-draft visit with the Jets. More names have leaked out over the past seven days, so let's break down some of the more interesting ones in detail.

Jeff Badet, WR, Oklahoma

Badet spent most of his collegiate career at Kentucky, but saw some high profile action last year after transferring to Oklahoma. He wasn't invited to the scouting combine, but if he had been, his pro day numbers for the 40-yard dash, vertical jump and broad jump would all have ranked first or second at the receiver position.

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Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield drops back to pass against Ohio State during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Sept. 9, 2017, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete) (Jay LaPrete/AP)
Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield drops back to pass against Ohio State during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Sept. 9, 2017, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete) (Jay LaPrete/AP)

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | Archive: It's not quite crunch time yet, but there are less than three weeks until the start of the first round of the NFL draft, which means draft boards are in their final stages all around the league. It also means that the truth about which players are being targeted by which teams is starting to leak out -- albeit slowly.

Still, there are a lot of variables, especially in the first two picks. But at the moment there aren't many changes to my latest Mini-Mock Draft. The Browns are still taking a quarterback at 1. The Jets are still definitely taking one at 3. And I still think the Giants will take one -- assuming the right one is available -- at 2.

Here's a full look at my new Top 10, with some updated inside information...

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