It’s time to take a final look back at Sunday’s loss to the Eagles in BGA Extra - now with limited access to coaches film! After the jump, I respond to your questions from the comments in the original BGA post, which you can access here if you missed it.

MEL31602:

Slauson apparently hurt his ribs during the game. Did you see this having any impact on his performance?

Not really. As I mentioned, he had some good blocks at the start and at the end of the game, but kind of struggled in the middle, so it’s not obvious at which point the injury occurred and there was no apparent drop-off.

MEL31602:

With Celek having a career day yesterday everyone today is saying the jets can’t cover tight ends, and while I know that’s been a recurring issue in the past, it seems to me Celek’s stats were inflated by two long plays that were clearly blown coverages (and Harris, not Smith, took the blame for the 73 yarder). Did the Jets really struggle that much against the TE yesterday, and if so what can they do to fix it? Media types are saying they should jam tight ends at line, so why don’t they do that?

The Jets are one of the poorest teams against tight ends according to Football Outsiders, but they are strong against number one and number two receivers, so a lot of it is just a by-product of the fact that the receivers are targeted less often and perhaps that they look to use the tight ends to stretch the field, knowing that they won’t be able to do that with their receivers.

They have jammed tight ends and slot receivers to good effect at the line in the past, including this season, but it is often ineffective because the jammer either doesn’t get enough of the receiver to slow him down, or ends up slowing down his own pass rush.

As you correctly point out, Celek had some big catches to inflate his numbers on Sunday and the safeties weren’t really at fault. Hopefully the zone packages that they run will tighten up over the last few weeks as they did in 2010.

Jeff:

So here is Jason LaCanfora’s take on Sanchez:

“Mark Sanchez — He was the worst offender of the bunch. I continue to talk to people who have played with him, and been around the Jets, and don’t get the sense there is great hope he will take that next step. Rarely does he get multiple pass-catchers involved in the same game, and, according to sources, he has trouble reading both sides of the field. Therefore, the Jets couldn’t go with as many three-receiver sets as they would like. Sanchez still makes horrific throws with far too great regularity and without a dominant run game protecting him, his flaws are being exposed more.

At times, according to the same sources, Sanchez tries to do too much, barking out faux calls at the line and making things more complex than they need to be. He had been better in the red zone for a few weeks, but he still tends to force throws there that lead to crippling turnovers. Santonio Holmes has been pouty about the lack of diversity in the passing attack and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer is open to new challenges and looking to explore head-coaching options.

Down 7-0 early, the Jets got a gift on a muffed punt at the Eagles’ 14. Sanchez threw an ugly pick on the second play of the drive. Sanchez looked jumpy most of the game, holding the ball and taking sacks. Down 21-0 early in the second quarter, deep in his own territory and needing to protect the ball, he was too casual with his grip and fumbled. He threw another pick in the second half.

You don’t see that inspiring a lot of confidence. We’ll see if the Giants are able to rediscover their pass rush in the battle of New York this weekend, which could well decide the season for the loser.”

To me, this is extraordinarily unfair and inaccurate. I agree with some of his comments about Sanchez–the painful audibles, which seem to confuse the Jets offensive players more than the defense is one example, but some of his other observations are just wrong. So, LaCanfora says, “He had been better in the red zone for a few weeks” when in fact the Jets were leading the NFL FOR THE SEASON in red zone efficiency going into the Eagles game. And then he makes the absurd observation that “Sanchez threw an ugly pick” on a ball that was spot on, right at the top of Holmes’ helmet, and right through both of his hands. That “ugly pick” was not on Sanchez at all–it was on the pathetic excuse for a team captain, Santonio Holmes. Yes, Sanchez may have problems seeing the field–but so do many other quarterbacks–watch Stafford or Flacco or many others–who throw some awful picks. Sanchez, to his credit, seems to have reduced the bad picks in recent weeks.

Yeah, this seems slightly ill-informed and he is over the top in how he piles on Sanchez. I’d agree that the source is probably Derrick Mason and if that’s the case, he hasn’t been here for two months, so it’s difficult to take his criticisms seriously.

As you point out, the Jets were number one in terms of red zone scoring percentage entering this week and the first interception was not on Sanchez at all. He definitely struggles to read defenses at times and gets rattled by pressure, but on Sunday, there was one play – the 41 yarder to Keller – where he scanned the field, saw his first options were covered and then found Keller down the field, so I don’t see him as a lost cause.

As for the audibles, I'm sure he can only make changes that he's been instructed to do by the OC and we know they've given him extra responsibilities and taken things off his plate at various times, so if he's over-complicating things, it may just be because he's doing what he's been instructed to do - and I'm not sure a wide receiver would fully grasp that.

Anyone who concludes a 25 year old whose stats have been better in each of his first three years has stopped developing “is never going to make that next step” is being overly dramatic. He might. He might not. Some analysts need to stop looking for immediate answers to questions that will take years to answer properly.

john:

You said - “How can you avoid falling behind early on in games? A conservative approach would seem to make sense, but the game didn’t spiral out of control because they didn’t adopt such an approach on Sunday.” I disagree completely! The first four offensive plays the Jets ran the ball down their throats (4 carries, 33 yards) so what do we call next? A screen on 1st and ten!

I’m not sure that negates my point. Four runs, a screen pass and a dump off pass on their first drive is a pretty conservative game plan. It’s not like they threw downfield at all and suddenly they’re 7-0 down.

I know what you’re saying – that even this was not conservative enough and they should have stuck with the run and I have criticized them in the past for this. However, although the running game got off to a good start, the next 20 carries by running backs netted 51 yards, so obviously they were able to adjust, so perhaps they went away from the run at just the right time.

And, while the screen pass is a risky proposition against that type of defense, it should have been a 20-yard gain if Mangold, Slauson or Sanchez did their job better.

revisfan:

Does play action even work against a team like the Eagles? They play the run on the way to the QB anyway, so it’s not going to slow them down much.

The Eagles do have plenty of guys crowding the line of scrimmage and any of them might be susceptible to a play fake at any given time. So, while it might not slow down their pass rush, I don’t see why it couldn’t be effective in terms of freezing a defensive back or getting a linebacker to bite on the fake and being out of position.

Neal:

Can Kyle Wilson handle Victor Cruz?

Not sure about that. Wilson’s been better this year, but he’s still not the finished article and Cruz has had a monster season. However, if the Giants go three wide, he'll almost certainly have to cover him.

Neal:

How much coverage is Holmes seeing this year vs. last year?

Holmes is nearly always double covered, with one safety downfield on his side of the field. Last year, this wasn’t the case as often, which must at least be partly due to Braylon Edwards and his ability to stretch the field. Also, teams are often dropping more guys into coverage, because they don’t need to blitz to generate pressure against this offensive line, whereas over the last few years, the Jets had one of the best, if not THE best, lines in terms of pass protection.

Neal:

How is Sanchez still alive at this point in the season? It seems like from all the big hits he has taken and his petite size he should have missed at least a play.

Brunell has relieved him in garbage time a few times, but it is definitely impressive that Sanchez has taken so much punishment yet is still performing.

revisfan:

Schottenheimer kept going to the screen when it was clear they had keyed on that in practice, they would have been idiots not to, considering we racked up a 150 yards on them last week and the announcers kept yelling for Hunter to get help, but it seemed to me like they kept extra blockers in a lot. Is that accurate? I really think the Jets focus too much on the quick pass and emphasize it in practice so that when Mark has to hold it in a game, the o-line doesn’t know what to do. They should practice as if every play was a deep drop and stay on their blocks as long as possible.

No, there were fewer extra blockers this week. Ducasse was in for just eight snaps (21 last week) and Mulligan was in less than half of the time. On pass plays, they left an extra blocker in on fewer than one in every two dropbacks. However, these numbers may have been skewed by them going to spread formations in an effort to get back in the game.

The screen has been a staple of their offense in recent weeks and on a few of the ones that didn’t work (Sanchez was five of six for just 12 yards), they came close to having success, so I can see the reasoning behind going back to it. Brunell did complete a 27-yarder in the closing stages, so overall they gained 39 yards on seven screen passes.

The Eagles have actually struggled against the screen pass at times, but this is why I was commenting last week on how something that worked last week is not necessarily certain to work the following week, especially since that would become a focus of that week’s practice. It may even have been you that was asking whether teams would repeat sequences that had been successful the previous week. Here’s a good example of why not.

I can’t comment on what they do in practice, but I expect there are plenty of drills that they do where the linemen have to sustain their blocks as long as possible.

revisfan:

On the first McCoy TD run, I think it was Trufant came running over to help on the backside at the snap. Was that by design to get Shady to think he had a lane only to have it plugged by a DB? It seems that several times a game, Rex will call a defense that his team is incapable of executing. It seems good in his head and in theory but he doesn’t realize that some of his guys just aren’t athletic enough to execute it. As good as our line is, they can’t move laterally with these quick RBs that cut back also and he said after the game that they looked as if they were afraid to pressure Vick but didn’t he drill into them all week not to overpursue? I’m also curious to know what the dolphins did to contain them last week. I don’t think McCoy had a great game and they play a similar style of defense. Did they just execute better? Their safeties aren’t really better than ours albeit probably more athletic. It looked like we were playing more zones than we usually do and that really takes Revis and Cromartie out of their strengths. What TD did Cromartie give up?

Cromartie was badly burned in man coverage by a double-move on Celek’s touchdown (the one-hander). Generally, Rex Ryan’s defense gambles from time to time, not just by rushing a lot of players, but also by trying to set traps – for example by having the slot corner jump the outside receiver’s route and rolling coverage over to the slot corner’s man. This means they get burned from time to time.

On McCoy’s touchdown, it was Kyle Wilson that came off the edge from the slot in an effort to stop McCoy’s cutback. He would have had responsibility for the outside lane, but the reason the run worked so well was that Mike DeVito reacted to the misdirection and was forced inside by a double-team block. This gave McCoy a cutback lane that Wilson wasn’t fast enough to close, but I don’t think the defensive design was flawed, they just out-executed DeVito to create a lane.

revisfan:

Do you like the total QBR thing on ESPN? It’s supposed to account for all sorts of things that no one knows what they are. I saw Sanchez got a 3.8 this week. How does someone score that low, when anyone watching the game can see he played pretty well considering the circumstances, threw two beauty TDs and both his picks went through Holmes hands?

Sanchez wasn’t very good, but the QBR system is stupid. I have complex reasons for why I believe this, but I’m not going to reveal them.

mikebe1:

Can you tell us more about this Sanchez one week hang over after games like this. You’re usually positive, so we’re gonna need something positive heading into our subway series superbowl.

I’ve observed that if Sanchez finds himself under significant pressure, as he did in the Oakland/Baltimore games and then the Pats/Broncos games, he then seems to look uncomfortable in the pocket in the next game and will either hold the ball too long, missing an open receiver, or get rid of the ball too early, even though the protection seemed like it was going to hold up and he hadn’t waited long enough for routes to develop. That doesn’t bode well for this week, or next week.

The only positive thing I can say is that the Jets seem to be at their best when everyone is down on them. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong on Sunday, so they are due some luck and it’s unlikely that they’ll perform that badly again, especially against a struggling and banged up Giants outfit.

mataos:

I see you find the positive for a lot of guys who CLEARLY are not playing at a high level (even though they have plenty of years experience). You seem to think Sanchez should be capable of carrying this team on his back already, with a horrible RT no less. You claim “elite quarterbacks will march their team down the field to get them back in the game when the other team goes up big, so the size of the gap between Sanchez and those elite guys is readily apparent to everyone”.

The real difference between those guys and ours is not their QB makeup it’s something else. QBs like Brady have a great Oline. QBs like Rodgers have great WRs. Sanchez has neither. I’m not putting him in “elite” class because he has lots of short comings but come on. You tell me who could get the job done with one WR who can only make plays in the red zone and another who needs 5 secs to pull off triple moves to get open. Of course needing extra time to get open would be fine, if the Oline could provide it. So my question, just an opinion: Which QB do you think could take these exact same pieces and score 35 unanswered points in a half against a defense knowing you have to pass?

I know it’s a long question, keep in mind I am just looking for an opinion, I know it is a big “what if?” but I am interested to know what skill set you think a QB would need to possess to win the type of game the Jets found themselves in Sunday.

I’d just like to clarify those comments if I may. First of all, I was talking more in terms of when teams perhaps soften up their defense and go to more of a soft zone or prevent look. Also, I was making the observation that while we can have confidence that Sanchez will often make a one-off offensive drive with his team trailing, I don’t have faith in him to do it several times in a row to eat into a big deficit. Finally, I was merely trying to emphasise the gaping chasm between Sanchez and the elite quarterbacks in the league and pointing out that he isn’t yet equipped to carry a team, so the team is in trouble if they land themselves in a situation where they need him to (whether that be due to an ill-advised gameplan or just because they found themselves in a three or four touchdown hole).

Please don’t mistake what I was saying to mean that I think Sanchez should be at an elite level already, or that I don’t think he is capable of ever getting there.

kevin t:

You said Revis gave up 3 big catches? How many yards did he allow and could you give us his stats for the season?

As noted, one was negated by a penalty, so he had two for 28 yards, one of which was on a third and long where he kept the receiver in front of him and made the tackle to force a punt.

When Revis is thrown at, these are the numbers for opposing QBs:

31-72, 448 yards, one TE, four interceptions (45.4 QB rating, 43.1 completion percentage).

While those are sparkling numbers, over the last four games, he’s given up 16 catches on 28 targets for 177 yards and a touchdown – with no interceptions. That’s not so good – an 87.9 QB rating. However, he’s still rated as PFF’s number one cornerback and he’s 4th in lowest completion percentage and 2nd in lowest QB rating for anyone with over 30 targets.

matt m:

After the game Eric Smith said the Eagles were able to easily identify the coverage before the snap. This could have something to do with the supposed simplified game, but isn’t it still his responsibility to audible the coverage? Between that and him having no clue the playbook was even scaled back, I was pretty alarmed to say the least considering he’s known for his “smarts”.

I’d imagine they simplified things to the point where there was no audibling of coverages or anything like that. I think, judging by what he was saying, that they knew all of the Jets coverages, so I’m not sure switching from one to another would have helped much.

matt m:

Are there any examples of corners who handle the play-calling in the secondary, or does their position on the field make it too difficult?

I think cornerbacks have to be vocal and the communication across the secondary as a whole is crucial, but as a general rule, as I understand it, you need the calls themselves to be relayed by someone in the middle of the field. I don’t know that Revis could communicate with Cromartie if they were both on opposite sides, for example. Also, you presumably get a better viewpoint from a central position that you would on the outside. In any case, the Jets’ corners play a lot of man assignments, so presumably a lot of the adjustments being made don’t apply to them.

WOJF:

Both Cimini and yourself seem to indicate the inability to cover the TE’s at least this week, was not the fault of the safeties, that primary coverage was by Harris, Cromartie and Wilson. Rex, on Monday, kind of claimed that the reason for the Jets poor stats vs. TE’s was because we have excellent CB’s and other teams gameplan to the middle of the field. Rex’s explanation is counter intuitive to me, if the outside coverage is so great shouldn’t it make it easier to cover the TE’s? Is it possible to ascertain, on a seasonal basis, why the Jets are unable to adjust and get those big guys covered? It seems to me that ALL our LB’s and Safeties lack coverage talent, so who they put in coverage doesn’t matter, but wondering what the tape shows? Is it perhaps because we play so much man to man, and other teams play zone?

I think the lack of individual coverage talent, at least since Rhodes left and perhaps also due to Bart Scott slowing down is the reason we’ve seen a shift to more zone coverages since last season.

The cornerbacks do a good job, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t get help from the safeties. So I don’t think covering the receivers over the middle is any easier, opposing teams are just looking for those receivers more and perhaps further downfield. At times, they leave their corners isolated in an effort to help out with the middle, but those are the times that other teams can attack the corners with success.

WW85:

How much better or not would the Jets be with Kerry Rhodes?

As I said when Rhodes left, the Jets were always going to miss him. Had he been prepared to continue playing the disciplined role which contributed to the Jets’ top-ranked defense in 2009 then that’s exactly what the Jets miss now – a coverage safety with range that keeps everything in front of him and can handle man coverage assignments.

However, as he was playing that role, a lot of Jets fans were complaining that he wasn’t making enough impact plays and Rhodes responded to that in the worst possible way – by complaining about his role and starting to gamble which led to mistakes.

Had they kept him and persuaded him to play that role, then the Jets would be much better off (assuming he didn’t get injured like he did this year). However, I’m not certain he wanted that. Since he went to Arizona, he’s been playing more the way he wanted to here and has made more impact plays. However, he has also made a lot more costly mistakes and has overall graded out poorly. If he stayed in New York and played that way, I’m not sure the Jets would be any better off than they are now.

Tk:

PFF has Hunter as the second worst tackle in the NFL I believe.

No, he hasn’t been that low since the third week of the season. His low grade from this week’s game dropped him back into the top ten, but he’s still only 8th worst and 9th worst in pass protection (although his Pass Blocking Efficiency is only 14th worst).

I’m not going to pretend Hunter played well on Sunday, or that he’s anything other than a huge downgrade from Damien Woody, but the fact remains that about half the teams in the league start someone comparable or worse at tackle than Wayne Hunter, so that says it all about how many upgrades were readily available.

WOJF:

Regarding coverage, Francesca I thought made a rare astute point, that while Hunter has certainly been a problem, that ANY RT would struggle vs. elite pass rushers like Babin and most teams provide help. The problem with the Jets is that the guys they insert to help, Ducasse and Mulligan, can't block either. Is this a fair assessment?

My current working theory is that Hunter is better off when those guys don’t stay in on his side to help, because they sometimes get in his way and prevent him from using his best asset – his athleticism – to recover, because he doesn’t have space to do so. Also, this means he’s matched up with an interior lineman, which again exposes the fact that he relies on his athleticism more than size, strength and technique.

Unfortunately, Babin is so strong that he was a bad matchup for Hunter anyway, although as I stated in BGA, almost all of the damage was done in the third quarter and he fared okay the rest of the way.

The Giants use Jason Pierre-Paul on the weakside, so unless they change their plans, he’ll be matched up with D’Brickashaw Ferguson. I’d imagine that the Jets will trust Hunter to pass protect against Kiwanuka, but Justin Tuck is more powerful, so they might opt to give him help when he’s matched with him, even though Tuck has been playing hurt.

WOJF:

In addition to Turner and Hartsock, seems we are missing Lowery and, I can’t believe I am typing this, Drew Coleman in the nickel and dime. Has Wilson progressed at all? Is Strickland any good?

Yes, Hartsock barely plays in Carolina, so I wonder if he regrets not taking a minimum salary deal to play a bigger role here. For all his reputation as a penalty machine, he was penalty free in 18 of 19 games last year and there’s no question he was better than Mulligan has been. As I’ve said before, I’ve always liked Turner. I wonder what condition his leg is in right now. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he was 100% and has been sitting watching the Jets’ struggles and wondering why they IR’d him instead of waiting it out. You don’t think they could use him right now? Remember, his injury was supposed to be healed by mid-season and the Jets probably decided they needed the roster spot more than the ability to use him right at the end of the year. Big mistake, if that’s the case.

Drew Coleman made some big plays last year and hasn’t done badly in Jacksonville, but overall he was beaten more than Wilson or Strickland have been so far this year, so they don’t really miss him that much. Wilson has certainly progressed since last year, although I think he’s another year away from convincing me he can start at this level. Strickland is a reliable enough slot guy most of the time.

O-Insanity:

I’m in no way saying Sanchez is an elite QB, but I do think it’s a little unfair to say elite QBs will march their team down the field to get them back in the game when their team is down big. How often do Brady or Rodgers or Brees have to bring their teams back from 21 or 28-point deficits? Sure, their defenses are awful and they have to score a lot, but they’re usually not playing from way behind. Anyway, we have plenty of examples of Sanchez marching down the field to win the game in the 4th quarter or OT, so he is capable. Even the great Aaron Rodgers couldn’t get a drive going against the Chiefs…Sanchez scored 37.

These are good points, but if the Jets faced any of these guys in the postseason and went 17-0 up early in the second quarter, would you be that confident they could hold on? Both Manning and Brady fell behind against the Jets in the postseason over the last couple of years, but then got things going.

subwayfare:

Are there other teams with similar personnel that cover TE’s and RB’s out of the backfield better? If so, how? Should Jets LB’s be engaging TE’s better/longer at the LOS? It did look like Vick bought a lot of time with deep, backpedalling drops and, as noted, eluded some near sacks, but this is a consistent issue.

Well, the Ravens and Steelers have pretty similar base defenses and they are both in the top ten for covering TE’s. However, they also have Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed.

As noted above, jamming at the line is something they’ve had success with in the past – notably against Wes Welker and Brandon Marshall as well as tight ends – but doesn’t come without its drawbacks.

The Jets are actually fourth best against RB’s.

subwayfare:

Are the Jets just lacking personnel to run Ryan’s D effectively and he’s in denial about it? Ryan’s Ravens had a legit one-on-one Pass Rusher and an elite Safety. The Steelers have similar strengths in those spots. Seems that with big, run stopping LB’s you need either a legit pass rushing threat, or better backend coverage, if not both.

And you’re telling me Jamaal Westerman and Eric Smith can’t be those guys?!?!

Only kidding. Yes, that’s what they need in an ideal world. Their personnel is better at the cornerback positions, but otherwise they seem to constantly be trying to overcome talent deficiencies with traps, disguise and by having multiple packages.

WW85:

At first I thought this was a joke, but maybe we should seriously look at moving Cromartie to safety next year & admitting that a good safety is more important than a #2 corner? He’s got the size & talent. Revis locks down the #1 WR. Wilson +nickels Strickland or Cole on the #2 with Cromartie running free … It’s basically the same formula as 2009 with Revis alone with Shepperd, Lowery & Coleman & then Rhodes running free … Is that nuts?

The problem is that as soon as you do this, you’ll realize that a good safety is NOT more important than a #2 corner! I’d much rather they get a durable safety with range, speed and size, but such players don’t grow on trees, especially if you need them to also be experienced and/or smart to learn your complex scheme.

Cromartie is a cornerback. However, the way the Jets operate their scheme, that doesn’t mean he won’t find himself roaming deep in certain situations. Perhaps exploring that more would be a good way to overcome their lack of depth at safety over the next few games, but I think they’ll need him in man coverage most of the time.

F 16:

As half a joke with a bit of a head scratcher, how about putting Maybin in as a free safety? Or better yet, have him as a Monster Man on D, which is a roaming defender. He seems quick enough to cover the middle of the field.

Maybin ran a 4.78 at the combine. That’s super slow for a safety. He did improve it to 4.64 at his Pro Day, but even that is slower than Eric Smith’s combine time and he was only 249 pounds at the time, so it’s not like he’s likely to be much faster at the moment.

As noted above with Cromartie, maybe they could drop him deep on a certain look to try and catch the other team out, but he’s not going to be the answer to how they replace Jim Leonhard or anything.

While we're on the subject of Maybin, I criticized Muhammed Wilkerson for losing contain on Vick's touchdown run, but now that I've seen the coaches film, Maybin getting caught on the inside was the bigger problem there.

JetsImpact414:

It looks as if Sanchez has lost his love for the game over the past couple weeks. It’s almost as if he is just going through the motions and is playing with no passion. Can you comment on this?

I answered a similar question last week by saying this:

I went to a Sanchez post-game presser in 2009 and what came across was how genuine he was when he said playing in the NFL was the most fun he’s had in his life, even though that was after a tough loss. These days, I completely agree that sometimes he doesn’t look like he’s having as much fun and I have definitely noticed his reluctance to celebrate with the fans since they booed him.

However, this might not be a negative thing. Perhaps he’s decided to get more serious and that’s been reflected in a few good games in a row. I still think he desperately wants to win, even if it’s for his teammates and he’s decided to use the fans’ negativity towards him as fuel for motivation.

I’d suggest that the vast majority of fans are big supporters of Sanchez and I hope he realizes that we all want to win just as bad as he does. Playing with a chip on your shoulder can be a good thing, as long as you don’t become stubborn and let it affect your decision making process adversely.

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Vacc's 3 Keys: Colts-Jets 00:03:19
SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano identifies three keys for a Jets victory on Monday as they host the Indianapolis Colts.

THE GAME: The Indianapolis Colts (5-6) at the Jets (3-8) at the Meadowlands on Monday, Dec. 5 at 8:25 p.m. ET.

THE WEATHER: It's getting colder around here. A mild day with temperatures near 50 will see the temperatures drop below 40 during the game with the light Meadowlands winds making it feel even colder.

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Brian Bassett welcomes Brian Costello of the New York Post to the podcast, and they take a deep dive into the question of whether or not the Jets are better off today than the day when Woody Johnson flipped the switch from the John Idzik/Res Ryan regime, to the current Mike Maccagnan/Todd Bowles duo. Later, SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano joins the show to talk about his Thursday conversation with Darrelle Revis at Florham Park, and to share his thoughts on Revis' future with the Jets.


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Oct 2, 2016; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Jets defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson (96) celebrates after a blocked pass in the second half at MetLife Stadium. Seattle Seahawks defeat the New York Jets 27-17. Mandatory Credit: William Hauser-USA TODAY Sports (William Hauser)
Oct 2, 2016; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Jets defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson (96) celebrates after a blocked pass in the second half at MetLife Stadium. Seattle Seahawks defeat the New York Jets 27-17. Mandatory Credit: William Hauser-USA TODAY Sports (William Hauser)

The Jets released their injury report on Saturday. The following players were listed...

Out:

  • WR Jalin Marshall (concussion)
  • DT Steve McLendon (hamstring)
  • S Calvin Pryor (concussion)

Doubtful

  • LB Lorenzo Mauldin (ankle)
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Ray Lucas and Eric Coleman demonstrate the quarterback position on this edition of Jets Game Plan.

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Leonard Williams talks about his dominance, while former teammates of Joe McKnight discuss his death and career.

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Jets DE Muhammad Wilkerson spoke about the death of former Jet and teammate Joe McKnight through a team release on Friday afternoon. 

McKnight, who played for the Jets from 2010-2012, was killed in a shooting incident in Louisiana on Tuesday. 

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Ralph Vacchiano, SNY.tv:

Darrelle Revis has made it pretty clear that he intends to play in 2017, telling SNY "I still have a lot of football to play." He even thinks he can still play football at a high level.

But at what position? And for whom? Neither of those answers are clear just yet. And though it's certainly possible that the Jets will simply part ways with the greatest cornerback they've ever had, a team source insisted not to rule Revis out of the Jets' 2017 plans just yet.

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The Jets released their injury report on Friday. The following players were listed...

Did Not Participate in Practice

  • S Calvin Pryor (concussion)
  • WR Brandon Marshall (foot, knee)
  • LB Lorenzo Mauldin (ankle)
  • T Steve McClendon (hamstring)
  • WR Jalin Marshall (concussion)
  • WR Devin Smith (illness)
Tags: Breno Giacomini, Calvin Pryor, Jalin Marshall, Lorenzo Mauldin, Marcus Williams, Nick Mangold, Steve McLendon
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 (Brad Penner)
(Brad Penner)

Brian Bassett:

Welp. Let's face it brother, this season has been a bust.

Maybe it is just me, but it seems like the Faustian bargain made by Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Jets on the eve of training camp signaled the end. Since then the trajectory of this team has been steadily downward: horrifying play at QB, the season-ending injury to Eric Decker, the immolation of Darrelle Revis as "player who gives a damn" … it has been rough. Hell, even Muhammad Wilkerson's reputation looks to be streaking down the Alpine Slide at Action Park!

But since we're Jets fans, we are notorious gluttons for punishment. So rather than dwell on all the bad stuff … what causes for hope do you have from what you've seen this season, Bent?

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New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty throws the ball during warmups before a game against the Cleveland Browns at FirstEnergy Stadium. (Scott Galvin/USA Today Sports Images)
New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty throws the ball during warmups before a game against the Cleveland Browns at FirstEnergy Stadium. (Scott Galvin/USA Today Sports Images)

New York Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said young quarterbacks Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg need to get all the reps they can get to continue to develop.

Though the Jets have decided to turn back to Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback for the foreseeable future, Gailey said Petty "needs all of the work he can get," according to NJ.com's Connor Hughes.

"It helps to play in games. ... The probability in games, you've got a lot better idea of what's going to happen," Gailey said. "In practice, you only have about a 75 percent probability of how they're going to be, how they're to play, and how they're going to progress."

Petty has started just one game -- a 9-6 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in Week 10 -- this season before head coach Todd Bowles opted to make Fitzpatrick, who led New York to 10 wins last season, the starter again.

Tags: Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenberg, Ryan Fitzpatrick
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 (Debby Wong-US PRESSWIRE)
(Debby Wong-US PRESSWIRE)

The 54-year-old man who shot and killed former Jets RB Joe McKnight has been released from prison without charges being filed, according to the NY Post.

McKnight was killed in a shooting in Louisiana on Thursday,

The shooting took place at roughly 3 p.m.

A witness said an argument took place between McKnight and the shooter before the shooter opened fire multiple times.

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GEICO SportsNite: FNNY on Revis 00:04:28
Football Night in New York discusses Darrelle Revis' struggles and his future in the National Football League amid retirement rumors.

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GEICO SportsNite: Darrelle Revis 00:01:34
Ralph Vacchiano reports from the Jets facility on the Darrelle Revis rumors of him possibly retiring after the 2016 season.

Darrelle Revis, the embattled Jets cornerback, insists that he has given no thought to retirement despite his age and his struggles this season, and that his love for the game of football is as strong as ever. In fact, in an interview with SNY.tv on Thursday, he said any questions about how much he still wants to play are "really bizarre."

That was the 31-year-old Revis' response to the latest round of criticism in what has become a miserable season for the future Hall of Famer. He has struggled on the field in a season he admits is "definitely not" up to his personal standards, and the shots he's taken in the media have been relentless at times.

The latest came in a report in the New York Daily News on Wednesday that quoted a "confidant" of the cornerback saying "If he had his way he'd be done right now. He doesn't want to play anymore."

Tags: Darrelle Revis, Ralph Vacchiano
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The Jets released their injury report on Thursday. The following players were listed...

Did Not Participate in Practice

  • S Calvin Pryor (concussion)
  • T Breno Giacomini (undisclosed)
  • LB Lorenzo Mauldin (ankle)
  • T Steve McClendon (hamstring)
  • WR Jalin Marshall
Tags: Breno Giacomini, Calvin Pryor, Jalin Marshall, Lorenzo Mauldin, Marcus Williams, Matt Forte, Muhammad Wilkerson, Nick Mangold, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Steve McLendon
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 (Robert Deutsch)
(Robert Deutsch)

Jets CB Darrelle Revis would be done playing right now if he had his way, a confidant told Manish Mehta of the Daily News.

"He's done," the confidant said. "If he had his way, he'd be done right now. He doesn't want to play anymore. He's made a lot of money."

The confidant added that Revis "tanked" this season.

Tags: Darrelle Revis
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GEICO SportsNite: David Harris 00:01:19
Jets linebacker David Harris talks about the prospect of facing a strong Colts team.

New York Jets defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson (96) smiles during the first half against the New York Giants at MetLife Stadium. (Noah K. Murray)
New York Jets defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson (96) smiles during the first half against the New York Giants at MetLife Stadium. (Noah K. Murray)

While Muhammad Wilkerson has struggled to put up strong numbers on the stat sheet this season, head coach Todd Bowles has confidence the defensive end will have a good end to the season. 

"He's still getting the kinks out of it sometimes, but he's feeling a lot better now, so I expect to see a lot better Mo," Bowles told reporters following Wednesday's practice. 

Tags: Muhammad Wilkerson
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 (William Hauser)
(William Hauser)

Jets head coach Todd Bowles spoke to the media following Wednesday's practice. Here is what we learned...

  • It's still uncertain whether or not injured center Nick Mangold will play on Monday night against the Colts. 
  • With lack of creating turnovers, the team has been working hard in practice to get them. "We [are] trying everything we can to get them," Bowles said. "It's just not falling our way right now." 
  • WR Devin Smith has returned to practice and has no restrictions on what he can do. So far, according to Bowles, Smith is almost caught up with the offense.
Tags: Devin Smith, Indianapolis Colts, Muhammad Wilkerson, Nick Mangold
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Sep 1, 2016; Charlotte, NC, USA; Carolina Panthers offensive tackle Donald Hawkins (78) during the second quarter at Bank of America Stadium. (Jim Dedmon-USA TODAY Sports)
Sep 1, 2016; Charlotte, NC, USA; Carolina Panthers offensive tackle Donald Hawkins (78) during the second quarter at Bank of America Stadium. (Jim Dedmon-USA TODAY Sports)

The Jets have added T Donald Hawkins to their practice squad, the team announced. 

He will take the place of T Zach Sterup, who was cut from the practice squad on Tuesday. 

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Wide receivers giving Jets hope? 00:02:05
Jets Extra Point analyzes the fortunes of the Jets' passing game moving forward, noting the emergence of Quincy Enunwa.

Quincy Enunwa got back on track Sunday during the Jets' 22-17 loss to the Patriots.

Enunwa was targeted five times and reeled in all five passes, accumulating 109 yards and one touchdown.

He had just one reception each game during Week 9 against the Dolphins and Week 10 against the Rams.

Tags: Quincy Enunwa
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Wide receivers giving Jets hope? 00:02:05
Jets Extra Point analyzes the fortunes of the Jets' passing game moving forward, noting the emergence of Quincy Enunwa.

New York Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall (15) celebrates after catching a touchdown pass in front of New England Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler (not pictured) at MetLife Stadium. (Robert Deutsch)
New York Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall (15) celebrates after catching a touchdown pass in front of New England Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler (not pictured) at MetLife Stadium. (Robert Deutsch)

WR Brandon Marshall wants to finish his career with the Jets, the wide receiver told reporters on Monday.

"Obviously (I have) no plans on retiring, no plans on switching teams," Marshall said. "Would love to stay here and retire as a Jet."

The Jets acquired Marshall and a seventh round draft pick from the Bears for a fifth round pick prior to the 2015 NFL Draft. In his first season with New York, Marshall caught 109 passes for 1,502 yards and 14 touchdowns.

"You never know in this business," Marshall admitted about the chances he will be back in New York next season.

Tags: Brandon Marshall
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Corey Griffin and Brian Bassett deal with another inevitable loss to the Patriots, and the inevitable calls for the heads of Todd Bowles, Darrelle Revis, and Muhammad Wilkerson. They sift through another week of your voice mails, as the Jets sort through what's left of their season.

Tags: Darrelle Revis, Muhammad Wilkerson
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GEICO SportsNite: Jets on FNNY 00:04:06
The Football Night in New York panel discusses Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty and the Jets' recent loss to New England.

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GEICO SportsNite: Todd Bowles 00:01:26
Jeane Coakley talks with Jets head coach Todd Bowles about the quarterback situation and the team?s recent loss to the Patriots at home.

It's the same old quarterback for the same old Jets.

Ryan Fitzpatrick will remain the Jets starting quarterback, Todd Bowles announced on Monday, and he indicated it wasn't even a difficult decision. It doesn't matter to the Jets coach that Fitzpatrick is almost certainly not coming back next season, nor does it apparently matter to him that the 3-8 Jets have nothing left to play for this year.

Fitzpatrick, Bowles said, gives the Jets the best chance to win and Bowles still thinks that's important. So at least for now, the future - and Bryce Petty and rookie Christian Hackenberg - will have to wait.

Tags: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Jets safety Calvin Pryor (25) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)
New York Jets safety Calvin Pryor (25) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)

Jets S Calvin Pryor has a concussion, head coach Todd Bowles told reporters on Monday

Pryor suffered the injury during New England's game-winning drive that gave the Patriots the 22-17 victory.

On the season, Pryor has 44 tackles to go with five passes defended and one forced fumble.

Tags: Calvin Pryor, Steve McLendon
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 (Robert Deutsch)
(Robert Deutsch)

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By the end of the game, Patriots fans had taken over the Meadowlands and no one was surprised. Most of the Jets fans sadly headed for the exits, having seen this ending before.

Of course the Jets had a chance to beat the Patriots, and of course it ended with the ball getting swatted out of Ryan Fitzpatrick's hands. And of course Tom Brady, given enough time -- or any time at all -- engineered a game-winning drive. That's the way it goes for teams who have franchise quarterbacks on their roster. That's the way it goes, far too often against the Jets.

Tags: Bilal Powell, Brandon Marshall, Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenberg, Darrelle Revis, Juston Burris, Matt Forte, Quincy Enunwa, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ralph Vacchiano
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Bent: This was as frustrating a loss as the Jets have experienced all season. While it's easy to take consolation from the fact that the game was essentially meaningless and that losing the game might even be for the best in the long run, it's always unbearable to lose to the Patriots. 

That's especially true when the Jets arguably played well enough to win comfortably...

Tags: BGA, Darrelle Revis, Muhammad Wilkerson, Nick Mangold, Sheldon Richardson
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GEICO SportsNite: Jets' future 00:03:43
The guys on FNNY discuss the Jets' loss to the Patriots and what it means for the futures of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Darrelle Revis.

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New England Patriots linebacker Jonathan Freeny causes New York Jets quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to fumble during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)
New England Patriots linebacker Jonathan Freeny causes New York Jets quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to fumble during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)

New York Jets head coach Todd Bowles did not say whether or not Ryan Fitzpatrick, who threw for 269 yards and two touchdowns in Sunday's 22-17 loss to the New England Patriots, would be the team's Week 13 starting quarterback.

Tags: Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenberg, New England Patriots, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ralph Vacchiano
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Post Game Overtime: Jets-Pats 00:12:31
Chad Cascadden, Mike Westhoff, Ray Lucas and Jonas Schwartz grade the Jets' 22-17 loss to the New England Patriots.

New York Jets wide receiver Quincy Enunwa catches a touchdown pass over New England Patriots corner back Malcolm Butler during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)
New York Jets wide receiver Quincy Enunwa catches a touchdown pass over New England Patriots corner back Malcolm Butler during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)

New York Jets wide receiver Quincy Enunwa used his butt to help him make a highlight-reel touchdown that helped him record his first 100-yard receiving game in Sunday's 22-17 loss to the New England Patriots.

Tags: Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis, Eric Decker, New England Patriots, Quincy Enunwa, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)
New York Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall (Brad Penner/USA Today Sports Images)

The New York Jets showed flashes of what they had hoped to be a fluent offense and strong defense in a 22-17 loss to the New England Patriots. But at the end of the day, following another loss, they are still in the midst of a lost season.

Tags: Brandon Marshall, Bryce Petty, Buster Skrine, Darrelle Revis, Eric Decker, New England Patriots, Quincy Enunwa, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Sheldon Richardson
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Bowles reflects on loss to Pats 00:01:57
Todd Bowles and Ryan Fitzpatrick discuss the importance of finishing strong to end games after the 22-17 loss to the New England Patriots.

Darrelle Revis allowed Malcolm Mitchell to score a late touchdown and Ryan Fitzpatrick fumbled on the ensuing drive as the New York Jets lost to the New England Patriots, 22-17, Sunday at MetLife Stadium.

Tags: Brandon Marshall, New England Patriots, Quincy Enunwa, Ryan Fitzpatrick
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THE GAME: The Patriots (8-2) visit the Jets (3-7) at MetLife Stadium on Sunday, Nov. 27 at 4:25 p.m. 

THE WEATHER: The first half should see sunny skies and a temperature in the high-40s, but it will get colder as the sun goes down in the mid-to-late part of the game. 

Tags: New England Patriots
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Vacc's 3 Keys: Patriots-Jets 00:04:03
SNY NFL Insider Ralph Vacchiano identifies three keys for a Jets upset over the New England Patriots on Sunday.

THE GAME: The New England Patriots (8-2) at the Jets (3-7) at the Meadowlands on Sunday, Nov. 27 at 4:25 p.m. ET.

THE WEATHER: There's a storm front coming … but not soon enough to impact this game. Unfortunately for the Jets, since weather is a great equalizer, it'll be a nice, brisk day with temperatures in the low-to-mid 40s and moderate winds (although again, unfortunately for the Jets, probably not strong enough to impact the game).

WHAT IT MEANS: In terms of this season? Nothing. In terms of the future? Nothing. But the Jets, with their decision to go back to veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick, are going all-in on one, feel-good day for themselves and their fans. Yeah, sure, they're not mathematically eliminated yet. But Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy aren't walking through that door, so let's stick to reality. The Jets want to beat the Patriots to have one happy day before the reality of their December death march towards the end of their season kicks in.

Tags: Bryce Petty, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ralph Vacchiano
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GEICO SportsNite: Jets injuries 00:01:27
Todd Bowles and Ryan Fitzpatrick discuss the health of the team following the bye week as they prepare for the Patriots.

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Nov 20, 2016; Santa Clara, CA, USA; New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) celebrates after a touchdown against the San Francisco 49ers during the fourth quarter at Levi's Stadium. The New England Patriots defeated the San Francisco 49ers 30-17. (Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports)
Nov 20, 2016; Santa Clara, CA, USA; New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) celebrates after a touchdown against the San Francisco 49ers during the fourth quarter at Levi's Stadium. The New England Patriots defeated the San Francisco 49ers 30-17. (Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports)

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During the season, Bent's Game Analysis charts games for some of the Jets' upcoming opponents, enabling a breakdown of what to watch out for on gameday…

Last year, the Patriots lost in overtime at MetLife Stadium, but the chances of a repeat performance tomorrow are slim. With the Jets falling to 3-7 before the bye, a chance to play spoiler is about all they have to play for over the final six games of the year. While many fans are already looking ahead to next year, the Jets' coaching staff will still be going all out to give a competitive effort. However, it might be hard to motivate their players following a frustrating first half of the season. 

Tags: BGA, New England Patriots
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GEICO SportsNite: NY Jets 00:01:45
Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, wide receiver Brandon Marshall, and head coach Todd Bowles preview the weekend clash with the Patriots.

Oct 17, 2016; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Jets center Nick Mangold (74) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. The Cardinals defeated the Jets 28-3. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)
Oct 17, 2016; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Jets center Nick Mangold (74) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. The Cardinals defeated the Jets 28-3. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)

Despite missing the last three games with an ankle injury, center Nick Mangold said he is hopeful he can play come Sunday. 

Mangold said he continues to feel better as the days go on. However, he was limited in practice Friday and is officially listed as questionable for the matchup against the Patriots.

Tags: Nick Mangold
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GEICO SportsNite: Jets-Pats 00:01:51
The Jets discuss their upcoming divisional matchup with Tom Brady and the Patriots at MetLife Stadium on Sunday.

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. - There are many reasons why Todd Bowles gave a stiff arm to the future this week and decided to ride with Ryan Fitzpatrick as his quarterback on Sunday. The most important one, he's said all along, is that Fitzpatrick gives the Jets their best shot at a win.

And boy, in the middle of this miserable, lost season, would a win over the New England Patriots feel good.

Tags: Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis, Ryan Fitzpatrick
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The Jets released their injury report on Friday...

The following players will be OUT for Sunday's game against the Patriots

  • CB Nick Marshall (ankle)
  • CB Marcus Williams (ankle)
Tags: Marcus Williams, Nick Mangold, Steve McLendon
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Would Tony Romo be a plus or a minus for the Jets? (Anthony Gruppuso-US PRESSWIRE)
Would Tony Romo be a plus or a minus for the Jets? (Anthony Gruppuso-US PRESSWIRE)

The talk of Tony Romo coming to the Jets shows just how desperate the team is for help at the position.

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Corey Griffin and Brian Bassett are back for Patriots Week, but admit the outlook isn't good for the Jets against New England with Ryan Fitzpatrick returning under center. They also take a look around the division, to see which AFC East team is the closest to dethroning Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and the Pats.

 

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GEICO SportsNite: Jets-Pats 00:01:51
The Jets discuss their upcoming divisional matchup with Tom Brady and the Patriots at MetLife Stadium on Sunday.

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. - Tom Brady missed practice for the Patriots with a knee injury on Wednesday, and all of New England is now waiting to exhale. But there's no reason for Jets fans to bother holding their breath. The Jets, as you all know, just aren't lucky enough for Brady to miss this game.

As far as the Jets are concerned, though, that's just fine. At this point, they'd rather see Brady in the lineup. Because if they're going to pull off this meaningless upset just so they can feel a little better about themselves in their lost season, they may as well do it with the Patriots at full strength.

Tags: New England Patriots
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New York Jets center Nick Mangold (Mark J. Rebilas/USA Today Sports Images)
New York Jets center Nick Mangold (Mark J. Rebilas/USA Today Sports Images)

New York Jets head coach Todd Bowles said he doesn't have an idea of when center Nick Mangold will return from his ankle injury that has kept him out for the past three games, according to the New York Post's Brian Costello.

Mangold, 32, did not practice Wednesday and has missed three games in a row for the first time in his career. He has been in and out of a walking boot for the past few weeks, which has clouded Bowles' idea of when he may return.

"For me, if you're not practicing, you're not improving," Bowles said. "I haven't seen him run yet ... he's not doing anything that I see."

Tags: Nick Mangold
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Oct 17, 2016; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Jets center Nick Mangold (74) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. The Cardinals defeated the Jets 28-3. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)
Oct 17, 2016; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Jets center Nick Mangold (74) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. The Cardinals defeated the Jets 28-3. (Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports)

The Jets released their injury report after Wednesday's practice. The following players were listed...

Did Not Participate in Practice

  • Nick Mangold (ankle) 
  • CB Nick Marshall (ankle)
  • CB Marcus Williams (ankle)
  • DT Steve McLendon (hamstring)
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