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__fense: So what was up with Mangold's snaps? It seemed like he had a hard time with them once Vick was in the game. Did he have issues with it in previous games? Is because Vick is left handed?
I don't think the fact he's left handed would have an effect and no, I didn't notice any issues in previous games. On the high snap, Mangold had to burst out of the blocks and sprint to get out in front of a screen pass (and made a great block). I guess that's what caused him to put too much juice on that one. I'd expect a professional like Mangold to get that corrected pretty quickly.
WW85: Did Enunwa see any action?
He did get in right at the end for two snaps, both running plays.
fourbten: I wonder if when Santonio got that first down he did that cool dropping the ball thing instead if handing it to the ref?
He did not.
BDarc23: I am wondering how the Oakland offensive line looked as a unit while you were researching Austin Howard.
They're not terrible, but Schaub has been getting rid of the ball in less than 2.5 seconds on average and there were one or two communication issues. The major issue now is that Menelik Watson had to leave game three early with a hip injury and he and Howard really don't quite have their chemistry down yet. Khalif Barnes moved over to replace him and does have plenty of experience at that spot, but could be a potential weak link. If Watson does return, I'd question whether he and Howard have had enough on-field preparation time together. The first team offense on the whole has been underwhelming.
NYCPEinGermany: What is the official ruling on Wilson's near interception? They seemed to indicate that he hadn't re-established himself in bounds after being out of bounds. If that's the case, what exactly does a player need to do to re-establish themselves in bounds?
The call was correct. The easiest way to explain it is that Wilson did this:
Left foot out - right foot out - left foot in - catch - right foot in
However, he needed to get both feet back inbounds to properly re-establish himself before the catch. This would have been okay:
Left foot out - right foot out - left foot in - right foot in - catch
RockyMountainJet: In the third game, how did Geno look in his progressions? Was he looking off safeties or staring down receivers at all? Are you able to tell if he was looking through his progressions before needing to scramble?
Very impressive. It seemed like he was scanning the whole field and aware of where the pressure was coming from. I can see what the coaching staff mentioned that sometimes it looks like he overdoes this - for example if he's looking at his primary target and can see they're going to be open, he'll look at his secondary target anyway and then go back to the first option, hopefully freezing a safety or linebacker in the process to create a few more downfield yards. That takes a lot of confidence and you can see how there might be risks attached if your initial read wasn't 100% correct.
Interested Jet: When will you starting looking at things the way they are? Kenrick Ellis is Sione Pouha 2.0. The Jets better hope that Harrison is healthy or the rest of the defensive line will suffer.
I completely agree, Ellis is another potentially elite run stuffer like Po'uha was and the defensive line would definitely suffer if Harrison wasn't healthy. I've never suggested otherwise on either front.
McGeorge: What do you think of Darrin Walls? He looked ok at CB didn't he?
I've always felt Walls has a good NFL future, even going all the way back to when I first scouted him. My views haven't really changed since then, I view him as a solid option, capable of starting as he proved in limited opportunities over the past few years. I think Ellis Lankster's press coverage skills are superior and under-utilized, but Walls has better size and did indeed perform well in the Giants game, showcasing his excellent closing speed. Having him in the starting line-up on opening day wouldn't concern me.
Disgruntled Jets Fan: How did the defensive playcalling compare with last week, such as the failed trap plays? Also, in the last two minutes of the half, the entire stadium knew Eli was just going to throw to Cruz. Did the jets bother to give Wilson some help there? I just tend to think that you shouldn't let the other team's best player beat you.
I have some interesting observations on this, all from the two minute drill. One of the catches Wilson gave up came as he faked a blitz and then dropped into coverage. This was basically the same look as last week when Wilson blitzed and Harris couldn't get over to his man in time. Again, this backfired because the couple of steps inside Wilson had taken to bluff the blitz was all the separation Cruz would need. On the Wilson (non)-interception, he had Harris coming across to double team. On the deeper out Wilson gave up to Cruz on the left side, they played straight up.
It's worth noting here that Manning didn't hesitate to throw that pass and if the Jets had actually been disguising a zone trap, that probably would have been an easy pick six for LeQuan Lewis, who followed his man down the sideline, vacating the area where the throw was completed. Finally, they did execute one trap successfully on that drive. This time, Cruz was lined up on the outside and Wilson passed off the slot receiver to Dawan Landry and then dropped to the outside so Manning was forced to throw high and out of bounds.
So, some interesting wrinkles there, especially showing some disguised looks and then breaking those tendencies the following week.
levi: Some questions for BGA extra:
1 Is Kyle Wilson stupid?
2 Is Stephen Hill really as bad as he looks?
3 Have you heard any inside info on why Lankster is getting passed over?
4 If Fonzie had an open seat at a Jets game and offered it to you would you sit with him?
1 When he was drafted, scouts described him as smart, so I guess not.
2 We'll come back to that one.
3 Not that I can impart...
4 Is he paying for my flight?
Going back to number two, I criticized Hill for a sloppy route in the game and wanted to expand on that. Hill has the size and speed to create natural separation, but there seem to be lots of examples of defenders closing on him late to either break up the pass or make it harder for him to catch the ball. Some insight into this came from the video of Hill that Sanjay Lal broke down for Eric Allen on the Jets Official Site. Lal shows how Hill remains tight to the defender on the release, because this prevents the defender from being able to recover. That's exactly the part Hill got wrong on that broken-up slant pattern on Friday night.
These are the little details that are holding Hill back from translating his practice success to actual on-field productivity. I'm not sure he deserves to be on this team, to be honest. As I write this, I'm just reading that they tried to trade him. That doesn't surprise me. The fact there were no takers also doesn't really surprise me either.
Jets Fan: Why was Lewis playing with the starters instead of Lankster?
Well, Lankster did get reps with the starters outside in the nickel package, which is perhaps a role they see him taking this year (as he did in 2012). As for Lewis, I assume the coaches were rewarding him for a good week of practice, where he had one day where he intercepted two passes. Lewis has played at the NFL level, so he's not a total slouch.
joemustgo: Once we cut Ford, can we please stop signing any more of Lal's disciples?
This was more of a rhetorical question, I guess, but I wondered if Denarius Moore (who some people thought the Jets should trade a draft pick for) counts as a Lal disciple. Lal was the wide receiver coach for his rookie season.
lcg12: On average how many seconds has it taken our three d-linemen to get close enough that the opposing QB felt pressure? The reason I ask is that ESPN showed highlights from the Packers game with a timer on Aaron Rodgers. He was getting rid of the ball between 1.5 and 2.4 seconds. That seems almost unhuman! Also, if you just looked at the Giants game, how long did it take Geno to get rid of the ball?
Smith got rid of the ball after 3.06 seconds on average with 67% of his throws being after 2.6 seconds or more. For the preseason as a whole, 63% of are over 2.6 seconds which is 4th highest among all quarterbacks with more than 20 dropbacks. Whether you view that as a sign of how good the pass protection has been or Smith taking too long to get rid of the ball is open to debate, but I lean towards the former.
Manning got rid of the ball slightly quicker - 2.95 seconds, with 61% more than 2.6 seconds. It's always pretty inaccurate to try and time how quickly pressure arrives, but the Jets pressured Manning four times in the first quarter and each was about three seconds, so he may have avoided some pressure by throwing earlier in some cases. In all, he was pressured on nine of his 23 dropbacks and got rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds or less on nine.
In three preseason games, the Jets have allowed five sacks, 10 hits and 31 pressures while generating 10 sacks, 11 hits and 38 pressures. That's a pretty sign that they're doing pretty well on that front.