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Olivier Vernon talks about his continued recovery from the injury that will sideline him again this weekend against Houston

With the Giants taking on the Texans this Sunday, they will once again be without DE Olivier Vernon

Vernon is dealing with a high ankle sprain, and hasn't been able to practice let alone make it out during a game this season. Along with Pat Shurmur, Vernon talked about continuing to trust the process of getting fully healthy, while being a positive impact on the sidelines. 

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Sep 16, 2018; Arlington, TX, USA; New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley (26) and quarterback Eli Manning (10) (Tim Heitman)
Sep 16, 2018; Arlington, TX, USA; New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley (26) and quarterback Eli Manning (10) (Tim Heitman)

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THE GAME

The Giants (0-2) at the Houston Texans (0-2) at NRG Stadium in Houston on Sunday, Sept. 23, at 1 p.m. ET.

THE WEATHER

The temperatures should be in the upper 80s and will feel much hotter than that, and there is the possibility of thunderstorms. So yeah, they're probably going to close the roof.

Tags: Eli Apple, Eli Manning, Ereck Flowers, Houston Texans, Odell Beckham Jr., Olivier Vernon, Saquon Barkley, Ralph Vacchiano
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May 21, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants cornerback Eli Apple (24) after practice at Quest Diagnostic Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)
May 21, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants cornerback Eli Apple (24) after practice at Quest Diagnostic Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)

Giants LB Olivier Vernon (ankle) and CB Eli Apple (groin) have been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Texans in Houston.

Head coach Pat Shurmur said late last week that the Giants were hopeful Vernon would be able to return for Week 3, but he has not made any meaningful progress. 

LB Connor Barwin (knee) and TE Evan Engram (ankle) were limited in practice earlier this week, but are both expected to play. 

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New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon (William Hauser)
New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon (William Hauser)

Giants LB Olivier Vernon (ankle), who has missed the first two games of the season, has still not returned to practice. And it appears highly unlikely he'll be able to play on Sunday against the Texans. 

Head coach Pat Shurmur said late last week that the Giants were hopeful Vernon would be able to return for Week 3, but he has not made any meaningful progress. 

CB Eli Apple (groin) also missed practice Thursday, while LB Connor Barwin (knee) and TE Evan Engram (ankle) were limited.

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Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)
Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)

Giants LB Olivier Vernon (ankle), who has missed the first two games of the season, has still not returned to practice.

Head coach Pat Shurmur said late last week that the Giants were hopeful Vernon would be able to return for Week 3 on Sunday against the Texans.

CB Eli Apple (groin) and LB Connor Barwin (knee) also missed practice Wednesday.

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(Tim Heitman)

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The Giants are a team in crisis at 0-2 after a miserable, 20-13 loss in Dallas on Sunday night. And they're back to their same old offensive problems.

Here's a look at how their specific position groups played on Sunday night...

Tags: Alec Ogletree, Eli Apple, Eli Manning, Evan Engram, Janoris Jenkins, Odell Beckham Jr., Olivier Vernon, Saquon Barkley, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Giants head coach Pat Shurmur coaches from the sidelines in the third quarter against the Dallas Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. (Tim Heitman/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants head coach Pat Shurmur coaches from the sidelines in the third quarter against the Dallas Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. (Tim Heitman/USA TODAY Sports)

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The Giants were so sure that a healthy Odell Beckham Jr., a rebuilt offensive line and the addition of Saquon Barkley would be enough to wake them out of their years-long offensive nightmare.

Two games into the season, it looks like they may have been wrong. Really wrong.

Their offense was absolutely pathetic on Sunday night in a 20-13 loss to the Dallas Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. They barely got anything going either on the ground or in the air. They hardly even threatened to score any points until the game was basically over. And if it weren't for Barkley (14 catches for 80 yards, 11 rushes for 28 yards), they would've spent the game looking like they were standing still.

Tags: Dallas Cowboys, Eli Manning, Ereck Flowers, Evan Engram, Odell Beckham Jr., Olivier Vernon, Ralph Vacchiano
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Sep 9, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley (26) celebrates his touchdown against the Jacksonville Jaguars during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. The touchdown was the first of his NFL career. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports (Brad Penner)
Sep 9, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley (26) celebrates his touchdown against the Jacksonville Jaguars during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. The touchdown was the first of his NFL career. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports (Brad Penner)

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THE GAME

The Giants (0-1) at the Dallas Cowboys (0-1) at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Tex., on Sunday, Sept. 16 at 8:20 p.m. ET.

THE WEATHER

A warm day with temperatures near 90 should cool off into the upper 70s by kickoff. Whether that matters or not depends on whether Jerry Jones has the roof open or closed.

WHAT IT MEANS

Did somebody say "Must win"? OK, I did. Since 1990, there have been 231 teams that have started the season 0-2 and only 28 of them (12 percent) made the playoffs. Those are not good odds for the loser of this game. And yes, yes, the Giants did it in 2007. We all remember that. But that's the exception, not the rule. The reality is that whoever loses this game will be in a suddenly quick hole after opening the season with dreams of competing for the NFC East title. If either the Redskins or Eagles win (they're both 1-0) that hole is going to feel very deep, too.

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Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)
Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)

 Giants LB Olivier Vernon (ankle) has been ruled out for Sunday night's game against the Cowboys in Dallas.

Head coach Pat Shurmur said the Giants are hopeful Vernon will be able to return next week. 

New York doesn't have any players listed as doubtful, and LB Tae Davis (hamstring) is questionable.

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Nov 19, 2017; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants corner back Janoris Jenkins (20) runs back an interception against the Kansas City Chiefs during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports (Brad Penner)
Nov 19, 2017; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants corner back Janoris Jenkins (20) runs back an interception against the Kansas City Chiefs during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports (Brad Penner)

Giants WR Sterling Shepard (back) returned to practice Thursday as the team prepares for Sunday night's game against the Cowboys in Dallas.

CB Janoris Jenkins left the team facility without participating due to what the Giants said was a family issue -- though the issue was not related to his brother, who was charged with aggravated manslaughter in July, according to Pat Leonard of the Daily News.

LB Tae Davis (hamstring) and RB Wayne Gallman (knee) were limited for a second straight day, while LB Olivier Vernon did not participate. 

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Sterling Shepard is currently listed as the Giants starting WR2 on the depth chart.  (William Hauser (USA Today))
Sterling Shepard is currently listed as the Giants starting WR2 on the depth chart. (William Hauser (USA Today))

Giants WR Sterling Shepard was limited at practice Wednesday due to a back issue as the team prepares for Sunday night's game against the Cowboys in Dallas.

LB Tae Davis (hamstring) and RB Wayne Gallman (knee) were also limited, while LB Olivier Vernon (ankle) returned to practice.

For the Cowboys, C Travis Frederick (illness), DE Randy Gregory (concussion), DT Datone Jones (knee), DE DeMarcus Lawrence (groin), and S Xavier Woods (hamstring) were all out. 

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Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)
Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)

Here are the key takeaways from Giants head coach Pat Shurmur's Wednesday press conference...

On the status of Olivier Vernon:

"OV will be out there running around today, so you'll get a chance to see for yourselves. We'll see. He's making good progress, he's going to do more this week than he did last week and we're hopeful that he'll be back soon."

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Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)
Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)

Giants OLB Olivier Vernon will return to practice on Wednesday, coach Pat Shurmur said on WFAN.

Vernon missed the team's season opener against the Jaguars with a sprained ankle.

"He'll be out there this week," Shurmur said on WFAN. "He's getting closer. He's a fast healer, from what I'm told, and he's going to be at practice [Wednesday] and throughout."

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Lorenzo Carter (59) Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)
Lorenzo Carter (59) Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)

Giants coach Pat Shurmur confirmed on Friday that both OLB Olivier Vernon and ILB Tae Davis will miss the season opener on Sunday.

Vernon has been dealing with an ankle issue, while Davis has been missing practice with a hamstring injury. Vernon will be the biggest loss, though, as his 6.5 sacks were the highest total among any Giant on the roster last season. 

In turn, it will be rookie OLB Lorenzo Carter and OLB Connor Barwin to split time on the field. Barwin is ready to fill the void for Vernon, and hopefully make a major impact. 

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Giants OLB Olivier Vernon was a non-participant at practice yet again on Thursday, as he continues to deal with his high left ankle sprain. 

Vernon told the Daily News' Pat Leonard on Wednesday that he "feels better than last week," but has yet to see the practice field. The Giants will have to put an injury designation on the linebacker if he doesn't see the field on Friday. 

Head coach Pat Shurmur doesn't know what to expect from Vernon. 

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Lorenzo Carter (59) Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)
Lorenzo Carter (59) Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray)

You can see from the above picture that Giants rookie LB Lorenzo Carter has a new hairstyle. He can thank his new teammate LB Olivier Vernon for that. 

As part of "team bonding," rookies had their hair stylized by some of the Giants' veterans. And Vernon decided to take an entire bottle of orange hair dye, and give Carter a makeover. 

"They dumped the whole (dye) in my head," Carter told NJ.com's Ryan Dunleavy. "It was a lot of guys, but O.V. was the one who stood out to me because he showed me his picture of what they did to him his rookie eyar in Miami. It was a lot worse than mine. His was real bright. I was like, 'It can't be that bad.'"

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Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)
Olivier Vernon (54) Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran/NorthJersey.com via USA TODAY NETWORK (Danielle Parhizkaran)

Giants DE Olivier Vernon suffered an ankle sprain during Sunday's practice, reports SNY's Ralph Vacchiano. Vernon also has a deep bruise in his ankle. 

X-rays came back negative on the left ankle after Vernon was carted off the field. Head coach Pat Shurmur didn't have any specifics on the situation when it happened. 

"I don't have much right now," Shurmur said, according to the New York Post's Zach Braziller. "I don't know yet [if it's serious]. I'll find out when I go in there. … You don't want anybody to get hurt. You want guys to be able to practice and stay healthy. We'll just see."

on suffered a sprained ankle during Friday's preseason game against the Jets, reports SNY's Ralph Vacchiano.

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Olivier Vernon (Jeff Hanisch/USA TODAY Sports)
Olivier Vernon (Jeff Hanisch/USA TODAY Sports)

X-rays on Olivier Vernon's ankle reportedly came back negative after the Giants linebacker was carted off the field at Sunday's practice, ESPN's Josina Anderson reports.

Giants head coach Pat Shurmur told reporters after Sunday's practice that Vernon was being evaluated but was unable to talk specifics.

"I don't have much right now," Shurmur said, according to the New York Post's Zach Braziller. "I don't know yet [if it's serious]. I'll find out when I go in there. … You don't want anybody to get hurt. You want guys to be able to practice and stay healthy. We'll just see."

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Dec 24, 2017; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon (54) kneels during the National Anthem prior to the game against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Matt Kartozian-USA TODAY Sports (Matt Kartozian)
Dec 24, 2017; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon (54) kneels during the National Anthem prior to the game against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Matt Kartozian-USA TODAY Sports (Matt Kartozian)

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POMONA, N.Y. - Olivier Vernon, the lone Giants player to kneel for the national anthem all of last season, said he will abide by the new NFL rules and won't kneel this season. 

But he's not happy about the league's decision to step in and force the protests to stop.

"I mean, you never want to be told what to do, really, especially when it comes to your freedom of speech," Vernon said on Saturday night. "But it is what it is."

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May 11, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants head coach Pat Shurmur holds a press conference at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran-USA TODAY SPORTS (Danielle Parhizkaran)
May 11, 2018; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants head coach Pat Shurmur holds a press conference at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Danielle Parhizkaran-USA TODAY SPORTS (Danielle Parhizkaran)

Giants head coach Pat Shurmur has yet to address his team about the NFL's new national anthem policy that is in place for next season. 

The new policy states that all team and league personnel on the field is required "to stand and show respect for the flag and the anthem." If players wish to continue protesting, they must do so off the field by not being present on the sideline for the anthem. The NFLPA immediately challenged the new policy, saying it would "review the new 'policy' and challenge any aspect of it that is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement." 

Shurmur has faith in his players to "do the right thing" when it comes to the anthem next season...

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 (Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray)
(Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray)

Giants co-owner John Mara wanted to find the middle ground in the NFL's national anthem policy

Well, that doesn't appear to be the case after the new policy was released by the NFL on Wednesday that requires all team and league personnel on the field "to stand and show respect for the flag and the anthem." If players wish to continue protesting, they must do so off the field by not being present on the sideline for the anthem. 

The NFLPA immediately challenged the new policy, saying it would "review the new 'policy' and challenge any aspect of it that is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement." 

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 (Kirby Lee)
(Kirby Lee)

Former Giants offensive lineman and two-time Super Bowl champion David Diehl sees an entirely different Giants team this year.

And though they were one of the leagues' worst at 3-13, Diehl is confident the new pieces this season will generate more wins. 

"You're going to be looking at a completely different offense," Diehl told NJ.com's Matt Lombardo. "Now you have Saquon Barkley, to Will Hernandez, to Nate Solder, and now coming back with a healthy Odell Beckham Jr., you're looking at a dangerous offense that can do a lot of things."

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 (Tim Heitman)
(Tim Heitman)

The Giants Plan A worked out perfectly. The Browns went for a quarterback in Baker Mayfield first overall, and Penn State RB Saquon Barkley was waiting for them to grab at No. 2. 

But, if the Browns wanted Barkley first before getting their quarterback, the Giants had their Plan B. And it wasn't one of the top quarterbacks on the board. 

N.C. State DE Bradley Chubb would have been their pick granted Barkley was gone, reports The Post's Paul Schwartz. Gettleman and the Giants viewed Chubb as the best defensive player in the draft, and thought he would be worthy of the No. 2 pick over a quarterback. Instead, Chubb went fifth overall to the Broncos.

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 (Brad Penner)
(Brad Penner)

The Giants' new regime is officially underway with the team's three-day minicamp on Tuesday, led by new head coach Pat Shurmur. It is a fresh start after an atrocious 2017 season. 

For defensive end Olivier Vernon, the team's fresh start involves a position change under new defensive coordinator James Bettcher. Vernon will now work in a 3-4 defense, but how the team will exactly utilize the veteran lineman is yet to be seen. 

Vernon doesn't even know how the Giants will use him in this new system. 

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Olivier Vernon (Eric Hartline)
Olivier Vernon (Eric Hartline)

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | Archive: EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - Olivier Vernon has been a very good player the last two years in the Giants' 4-3 defense. But new defensive coordinator James Bettcher sees great things ahead for him in the Giants' new 3-4.

That's because Bettcher intends to use the 27-year-old Vernon the way he used Chandler Jones last season - primarily as a pass rusher off the edge. Under Bettcher's guidance, Jones became one of the most dangerous pass rushers in the NFL, with 17 sacks last season. And he's just the latest in a long list of 4-3 defensive ends who reached another level as the edge rusher in Bettcher's 3-4 scheme.

"I've had Chandler Jones, Marcus Golden -- shoot even when you talk about older players, a John Abraham, a Dwight Freeney that's played in this system who have been 4-3 defensive ends playing in this same system," Bettcher said. "(Those are) guys that have had a ton of success, guys that have been double-digit sack guys in this system."

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 (Brian Spurlock)
(Brian Spurlock)

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ORLANDO -- As soon as the Giants' traded Jason Pierre-Paul, speculation went wild that they were planning to take his replacement with the No. 2 pick in the draft. And why not? N.C. State defensive end Bradley Chubb is considered the draft's best defensive player, perfect for the Giants' new-look, 3-4 defense.

That, of course, is not the reason they traded JPP. The move was about dumping a contract and a player, and their draft board didn't change after they made the move. They are set for the time being at the edge positions with Olivier Vernon and the newly-signed Kareem Martin, plus Josh Mauro when his season-opening suspension is over...

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 (William Hauser)
(William Hauser)

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The Giants have shored up the depth of their defensive line rotation by agreeing to terms on a new deal with Kerry Wynn.

Wynn, a 27-year-old who's entering his fifth NFL season, will sign a one-year deal to return to the Giants, a source confirmed. He has been a solid rotational player for the Giants since they signed him as an undrafted free agent out of Richmond in 2014. He's even made 10 starts in the last three years.

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James Bettcher hasn't unveiled his vision for what his new Giants defense is going to look like next season. But linebacker Kareem Martin has a pretty good idea of how exciting it's going to be.

"It's going to be a relentless defense," Martin, the newest Giants linebacker, said on a conference call on Friday. "We're a heavy blitz team in the past years and he likes to get guys run up the field and I think that's what the guys are going to be really excited about, especially the guys up front.

"This could be a top defense in the NFL."

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(Scott Galvin)

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The Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl champions, but the world hasn't yet spun off its axis. So for now, at least, Super Bowl LIII is still scheduled to be played next year.

The Eagles, who were the worst team in the NFC East just one year ago, are clearly among the favorites to get back to the Super Bowl again. But is there any chance the Giants can pull off their worst-to-first trick, too?

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 (Kirby Lee)
(Kirby Lee)

The Giants new defensive coordinator, James Bettcher, brings a new dynamic to the defense with his 3-4 scheme. So where do traditional defensive ends like Jason Pierre-Paul and Olivier Vernon?

Former Cardinals HC Bruce Arians, who had Bettcher on his staff, thinks Pierre-Paul and Vernon would fit perfectly into Bettcher's scheme. The Cardinals pushed to get JPP because they were convinced he could convert into a 3-4 outside linebacker based on his speed and quickness off the line. 

After Pierre-Paul signed with the Giants on a one-year deal, the Cardinals dealt for Chandler Jones, who has thrived in Bettcher's system with 28 sacks in two seasons. 

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Aug 31, 2017; Denver, CO, USA; Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator James Bettcher before the game against the Denver Broncos at Sports Authority Field at Mile High. Mandatory Credit: Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports (Isaiah J. Downing)
Aug 31, 2017; Denver, CO, USA; Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator James Bettcher before the game against the Denver Broncos at Sports Authority Field at Mile High. Mandatory Credit: Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports (Isaiah J. Downing)

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - When Pat Shurmur looked at the Arizona Cardinals defense, he saw they were stingy, aggressive, and stout against the run. So when their defensive coordinator became available, he made the easy and obvious choice.

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New York Giants strong safety Landon Collins reacts after recovering a fumble against the Oakland Raiders in the third quarter at Oakland Coliseum. (Cary Edmondson/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants strong safety Landon Collins reacts after recovering a fumble against the Oakland Raiders in the third quarter at Oakland Coliseum. (Cary Edmondson/USA TODAY Sports)

Giants S Landon Collins, who was forced to exit Sunday's loss to the Eagles due to a lingering ankle injury, missed practice again on Thursday.

LB B.J. Goodson (ankle), WR Tavarres King (concussion), and DE Jason Pierre-Paul (finger) also missed practice for a second straight day..

S Nat Berhe (hamstring), CB Brandon Dixon (heel/hamstring), T Ereck Flowers (groin), and DE Olivier Vernon (not injury related) were limited participants.

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New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning escapes pressure by Dallas Cowboys defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence during the third quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning escapes pressure by Dallas Cowboys defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence during the third quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Whatever good feelings there were inside the Meadowlands at the start of Sunday's game were completely gone by the end of it. The fans that bothered to stick around were either booing or cheering the Cowboys. For the Giants, it was just another miserable loss.

But they've reached the point in their season where they can win for losing, and on Sunday they did. Their 30-10 loss to the Dallas Cowboys, plus the San Francisco 49ers' 26-16 win in Houston, helped solidify the Giants' position in the 2018 draft, where right now they'd have the second pick.

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New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon takes a knee during the national anthem before the start of the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Raymond James Stadium. (Jonathan Dyer/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon takes a knee during the national anthem before the start of the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Raymond James Stadium. (Jonathan Dyer/USA TODAY Sports)

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Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon continued his silent protest during the national anthem on Thursday night. And this time, he drew some personal attention -- and attacks -- from the White House.

Both the president and his social media director took shots at Vernon on Twitter on Friday morning, though the president did not refer to Vernon by name. And they were both reacting to a story on Breitbart -- a right-wing media outlet -- that referred to his decision to continue his protest on Thanksgiving as "just beneath contempt."

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Washington Redskins linebacker Junior Galette sacks New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning causing a fumble during the second half at FedEx Field. (Brad Mills/USA TODAY Sports)
Washington Redskins linebacker Junior Galette sacks New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning causing a fumble during the second half at FedEx Field. (Brad Mills/USA TODAY Sports)

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It doesn't matter who calls the plays. It doesn't matter what the run-pass balance is. It doesn't really even matter how the quarterback plays anymore.

The Giants are simply too undermanned to generate any consistency on offense anymore.

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New York Giants offensive guard Justin Pugh during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants offensive guard Justin Pugh during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)

The Giants will be without G D.J. Fluker (toe), LB B.J. Goodson (ankle), and OL Justin Pugh (back) on Thursday night against the Redskins.

LB Calvin Munson (quad) is listed as doubtful.

WR Sterling Shepard (ilnness) is questionable. He missed practice on Wednesday after sitting out on Tuesday due to "not feeling well," per SNY's Ralph Vacchiano. 

Tags: B.J. Goodson, Damon Harrison, D.J. Fluker, Jonathan Casillas, Justin Pugh, Olivier Vernon, Sterling Shepard, Zak DeOssie
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 (Brad Penner)
(Brad Penner)

Giants WR Sterling Shepard sat out of practice again on Tuesday as he was "not feeling well," per SNY's Ralph Vacchiano. 

Shepard was sidelined against the Chiefs on Sunday with migraines, and it appears that he still has them. Trainers will continue "looking at all possibilities" as to why the sophomore receiver is getting them. 

The good news at practice was DT Damon "Snacks" Harrison and DE Olivier Vernon were both at practice, but were limited in what they could do. They were previously out on Monday after both suffering injuries in the win on Sunday. Vernon was said to have a shoulder injury on Sunday, but he was listed with an ankle issue which has bothered him the past few weeks. Harrison is nursing an ankle injury. 

Tags: B.J. Goodson, Damon Harrison, D.J. Fluker, Justin Pugh, Olivier Vernon, Sterling Shepard
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(Brad Penner)

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | ArchiveThe Giants have a very short week, but their injury list remains very long.

Five starters, and one of the replacements for the injured starters, were on the list of Giants who did not practice on Monday as the Giants began their abbreviated preparation for their Thanksgiving night game against the Redskins (4-6) in Washington. That includes two starting offensive linemen who may not play, meaning the Giants could have to reshuffle a line that is already in a constant state of flux.

Justin Pugh was already expected to miss the next few weeks, according to multiple team sources. And now, according to NJ.com, G D.J. Fluker is expected to miss the game on Thursday night, too. That probably means G Jon Halapio would be in line for his first career start, though the Giants also could turn to veteran G John Greco whom they just signed last week.

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 (Brad Penner)
(Brad Penner)

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | ArchiveThe Giants have a very short week, but their injury list remains very long.

Five starters, and one of the replacements for the injured starters, were on the list of Giants who did not practice on Monday as the Giants began their abbreviated preparation for their Thanksgiving night game against the Redskins (4-6) in Washington. That includes two starting offensive linemen who may not play, meaning the Giants could have to reshuffle a line that is already in a constant state of flux.

Justin Pugh was already expected to miss the next few weeks, according to multiple team sources. And now, according to NJ.com, G D.J. Fluker is expected to miss the game on Thursday night, too. That probably means G Jon Halapio would be in line for his first career start, though the Giants also could turn to veteran G John Greco whom they just signed last week.

Tags: B.J. Goodson, D.J. Fluker, Jason Pierre-Paul, Justin Pugh, Olivier Vernon, Sterling Shepard, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Giants kicker Aldrick Rosas celebrates a field goal against the Kansas City Chiefs with New York Giants punter Brad Wing during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants kicker Aldrick Rosas celebrates a field goal against the Kansas City Chiefs with New York Giants punter Brad Wing during the fourth quarter at MetLife Stadium. (Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports)

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Giants head coach Ben McAdoo was screaming in the post-game locker room, celebrating his players for a "Great team win." Then he called Eli Manning to the center of the room to gather his teammates around him. Even his excitement bubbled over.

"Enjoy it," Manning yelled in a video the Giants posted after their 12-9 overtime win over the Kansas City Chiefs. "Feel good about it. We deserve this win. We deserve to feel this good."

Yes they do, after enduring a season of misery, controversy and questions about their heart. And after two weeks of questionable efforts, they "flipped the script" to quote one of McAdoo's favorite clichés. They fought and scratched and clawed their way to a win no one expected them to have.

Tags: Eli Manning, Evan Engram, Janoris Jenkins, Jonathan Casillas, Kansas City Chiefs, Olivier Vernon, Roger Lewis, Shane Vereen, Sterling Shepard, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon tries to tackle Tampa Bay Buccaneers running back Jacquizz Rodgers during the first quarter at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants defensive end Olivier Vernon tries to tackle Tampa Bay Buccaneers running back Jacquizz Rodgers during the first quarter at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)

Not only did Ben McAdoo have a team meeting on Wednesday, but the Giants' defense held a players-only meeting to figure out their own problems. 

The defense has looked like a shell of itself from last season as it has consistently dropped the ball the past few weeks. They have allowed a total 82 points in the last two weeks, and after allowing over 400 yards per game this season, they are ranked 31st in total defense. 

Similar to McAdoo's meeting, effort was a main area discussed in the meeting. Every player was allowed to speak, and things were spirited in the discussions. 

Tags: Damon Harrison, Devon Kennard, Jason Pierre-Paul, Jonathan Casillas, Olivier Vernon
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 (Sergio Estrada)
(Sergio Estrada)

Janoris Jenkins had his worst outing as a Giant on Sunday, and he didn't want to talk about it to reporters after the game. 

Jenkins, who returned from his suspenion for not showing up on time following the bye week, looked lost on Levi's Stadium. He was picked on all game long, and was held accountable for two, big touchdown passes by the 49ers. 

After his dismal performance, reporters wanted to get a word as to why Jenkins faltered so much on Sunday. "I'll be back," is all they got from him as he walked out of the locker room and never returned. He was the only secondary player to not talk to reporters. 

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November 12, 2017; Santa Clara, CA, USA; New York Giants tight end Evan Engram (88) catches a touchdown pass against San Francisco 49ers strong safety Eric Reid (35) during the second quarter at Levi's Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports (Kyle Terada)
November 12, 2017; Santa Clara, CA, USA; New York Giants tight end Evan Engram (88) catches a touchdown pass against San Francisco 49ers strong safety Eric Reid (35) during the second quarter at Levi's Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports (Kyle Terada)

The Giants looked lost in San Francisco as they gave the 49ers their first win of the season in a 31-21 loss.  >> Box score


 

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New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning (10) warms up before an NFL football game against the Los Angeles Rams Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez) (Julio Cortez/AP)
New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning (10) warms up before an NFL football game against the Los Angeles Rams Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez) (Julio Cortez/AP)

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THE GAME

The Giants (1-7) at the San Francisco 49ers (0-9) at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, Calif. on Sunday, Nov. 12 at 4:25 p.m. ET.

THE WEATHER

The football may stink, but the weather should be gorgeous. The forecast calls for temperatures around 70 at kickoff with mostly sunny skies and little winds. Enjoy!

WHAT IT MEANS

At this point, the dysfunctional Giants desperately need a win just to change the conversation and give them something to feel good about. It's not going to change their fate or put them into the playoff race, but maybe it'll make them less grumpy to be around. In the bigger picture, though, a loss here probably takes the Giants out of the race for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2018 draft. It's hard to imagine the 49ers or Browns getting two wins at this point.

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New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement)
New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement)

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - Ben McAdoo wouldn't use the word "embarrassing" on Sunday. But after watching his defense give up 51 points to the Los Angeles Rams, Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo had no problem using that word at all.

"There's a pit right here -- it's called an embarrassing pit," Spagnuolo said on Thursday. "We feel terrible about that and looking to get it corrected."

That might be easy if this were a one-game collapse, but really the Giants' 51-17 loss at home to the Rams was just the bottom (they hope) of an embarrassing season for Spagnuolo's once-proud defense. They were a Top 10 unit one year ago and brought back almost every key player. This year they are statistically the third-worst defense in the NFL and have now given up more than 400 yards in four of their last five games.

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New York Giants middle linebacker B.J. Goodson against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during the first half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants middle linebacker B.J. Goodson against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during the first half at Raymond James Stadium. (Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports)

Giants LBs B.J. Goodson (ankle), Devon Kennard (quad), and Keenan Robinson (quad) are all listed as out for Sunday's game against the 49ers in San Francisco.

All three players missed practice on Thursday and Friday.

CB Donte Deayon (ankle) is doubtful, while  LB Jonathan Casillas (neck), LB Calvin Munson (quad), DE Olivier Vernon (ankle), and DE Kerry Wynn (knee) are questionable.

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New York Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul (90) (Seth Wenig/AP)
New York Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul (90) (Seth Wenig/AP)

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - Jason Pierre-Paul missed practice on Thursday, but the team said it was not injury-related.

The defensive end was riding the stationary bike in the injury area at the start of practice on Thursday, before heading inside to work with trainers in the team's field house. It appeared that the trainers were working on his left shoulder -- which would make sense since he had a shoulder injury earlier in the season.

JPP had company on the sidelines, too. Three linebackers were also sitting out practice -- Keenan Robinson (quad), B.J. Goodson (ankle) and Devon Kennard (quad).

Tags: B.J. Goodson, Dalvin Tomlinson, Devon Kennard, Jason Pierre-Paul, Jonathan Casillas, Justin Pugh, Keenan Robinson, Kerry Wynn, Olivier Vernon, Ralph Vacchiano
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New York Giants offensive guard Justin Pugh (67) during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. New York Giants defeated the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 32-18. (Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports)
New York Giants offensive guard Justin Pugh (67) during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. New York Giants defeated the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 32-18. (Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports)

LB Keenan Robinson and LB Devon Kennard -- both suffering from quad injuries -- joined LB B.J. Goodson (ankle) on the stationary bike along the sidelines during the Giants' practice on Wednesday. Goodson has not played since leaving early during New York's loss to Seattle on Oct. 23 while Robinson left Sunday's game against the Rams.

LB Jonathan Casillas (neck), LB Calvin Munson (quad) CB Donte Deayon (ankle), OL Justin Pugh (back), DT Dalvin Tomlinson (ankle), LB Olivier Vernon (ankle) and DE Kerry Wynn (knee) are listed on the injury report, but were limited participants in practice. 

Vernon has not played since Week 4 and Casillas has not suited up since Week 5. Pugh missed his first game of the season during Sunday's 51-17 loss to the Rams.

Tags: B.J. Goodson, Dalvin Tomlinson, Devon Kennard, Jonathan Casillas, Justin Pugh, Keenan Robinson, Kerry Wynn, Olivier Vernon
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Stanford, CA, USA; UCLA Bruins quarterback Josh Rosen (3) (Sergio Estrada)
Stanford, CA, USA; UCLA Bruins quarterback Josh Rosen (3) (Sergio Estrada)

Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | Archive: If the NFL season ended today, the Giants would be picking third in the 2018 NFL draft -- their highest pick since they took linebacker Carl Banks third way back in 1984.

But if they somehow find a way to lose to the 0-9 49ers in San Francisco this Sunday, their first shot at the No. 1 overall pick in 52 years would be in play.

What would the Giants do with that unexpected gold? Would they grab their next franchise quarterback? Take the best tackle or running back instead? Or trade down with a quarterback-starved franchise for a boat-load of high picks over the next few years?

Tags: Bobby Hart, Dalvin Tomlinson, Davis Webb, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Eli Apple, Eli Manning, Ereck Flowers, Janoris Jenkins, Jason Pierre-Paul, John Jerry, Justin Pugh, Landon Collins, Olivier Vernon, Weston Richburg, Ralph Vacchiano
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 (Danny Wild)
(Danny Wild)

The Giants lost to the Rams 51-17 at MetLife Stadium to fall to 1-7 on the season. They travel to San Francisco to take on the 49ers this Sunday.

Need to Know

The Giants get the day off and will resume to practice on Tuesday. 

Eli Manning became the seventh quarterback in history to reach 50,000 passing yards on Sunday.

Keep an eye on SNY Giants throughout the day for the latest news, notes, and opinon on Big Blue...

Tags: Eli Apple, Eli Manning, Evan Engram, Janoris Jenkins, Olivier Vernon, Scott Thompson
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