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Jason Parks and the Baseball Prospectus prospect crew ranked the Mets' farm system the 8th-best in baseball this year, up from #10 last year.

Two of their comments:

State of the System:?Solid blend of pitching and positional talent, ranging from high-risk/high-reward types at the lower levels to safer high-floor prospects nearing the major-league level.

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Baseball America released their Top 100 prospects in baseball on Wednesday night and included four Mets: Noah Syndergaard at #16, Travis d'Arnaud at #38, Rafael Montero at #68 and Dominic Smith at #92.

John Manuel's player capsules are below. Subscribers can read lengthier reports here.

Syndergaard

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This is one of my favorite posts of the year, in which I compare how the major national prospect outlets - ESPN, Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus and MLB.com, ranked the top Mets prospects. It's revealing.

There is a little bit of guesswork as different authors rank different numbers of players and have slightly different eligibility rules, which this year only matters for Jeurys Familia. I tried to hew as closely as possible to each author's intent. For every player beyond the number of players each publication ranked, I assigned that player the next best rank. If Keith Law ranked 15 players for example, to create my average ranking, I assigned every other player a 16. Law ranked 15 guys, Baseball America 30, MLB.com 20 and BP 10. I used Jason Parks' commenta to separate the next few players after #10 into tiera. He suggested that Matz, Fulmer and Herrera were in play for him at #10; they all got 11s. Everyone else 14s. "Flattening" the back of these lists artificially reduces the combined rank of non-consensus Top 15 players and the variance on their ranking, but I don't know a fairer way to do it.

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Jason Parks and his merry crew at Baseball Prospectus are out with their Top 10 Mets Prospects for 2014. Please go read their writeups as they are perhaps the most detailed in the industry.

1. RHP Noah Syndergaard

2. C Travis d?Arnaud

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Who do you trust? The numbers, the eyes or both?

Dan Szymborski of ESPN, who created the ZiPS projection system examined Keith Law's Top 100 MLB prospects through a Zippy lens.

For anyone who care about process in analyzing minor league players, go read the whole thing.

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Keith Law of ESPN.com is out with his Top 100 prospects in baseball. Unlike similar lists from Baseball Prospectus and MLB.com, which had three Mets each, Law has five Mets farmhands in his top 100.

24 - RHP Noah Syndergaard

36 - C Travis d'Arnaud

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At ESPN.com, Keith Law ranked the best Farm Systems in baseball, and placed the Mets sixth. Law uses all players who still have rookie eligibility.

The Mets trail the Astros, Twins, Pirates, Cubs and Red Sox.

Last year, the Mets were 14th and the year before that 22nd.

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Professor (Jason) Parks and his prospect team at Baseball Prospectus are out with their Top 101 in baseball. As with the MLB.com list last week, this one also features three Mets: Noah Syndergaard (#11), Travis d'Arnaud (#48) and Wilmer Flores (#71).

BP lists Flores, who did not make the MLB.com list, as a second baseman.

d'Arnaud is listed 26 spots lower than he was at MLB.com.

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You can probably guess which three Mets farmhands made MLB.com's list of the game's Top 100 prospects: RHP Noah Syndergaard at #11, C Travis d'Arnaud at #22 and RHP Rafael Montero at #85 (pictured at right).

One note on each:

  • Syndergaard is the #3 pitching prospect on MLB's list behind only Archie Bradley and Taijuan Walker.
  • d'Arnaud is the oldest player on MLB's Top 100, and one of seven 24-year-olds.
  • Of the 37 RHP on the list, Montero is one of four at 6'0" or shorter, joined by Yordano Ventura (KS - #35), Marcus Stroman (TOR - #55), Jose Berrios (MIN - #90).
With three representatives, the Mets are mid-pack. The list is dominated in volume by six teams, the Astros (7), Red Sox (9), Cubs (7), Pirates (6), Twins (5) and Rangers (5) who together account for 39 players.

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MLB.com moves forward with their position-by-position prospect rankings, and yesterday, put Wilmer Flores at #10 among all Major League second-base prospects.

He slots in behind Kolten Wong (Cardinals), Rougned Odor (Rangers), Mookie Betts (Red Sox), Arismendy Alcantara (Cubs), Devon Travis (Tigers), Jonathan Schoop (Orioles), Taylor Lindsey (Angels), Eddie Rosario (Twins) and Micah Johnson (White Sox). I've seen four of those guys play live.

Here's the comment on Flores:

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MLB.com is rolling through their list of prospects by position and listed Dominic Smith, the Mets' first round pick in 2013, at #2 at first base behind only the Astros' Jonathan Singleton.

There's no author listed, but it's either Jon Mayo or Jim Callis or a combined effort.

The comment on Smith:

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For the second straight year, MLB.com has named Travis d'Arnaud the top catching prospect in baseball.

Jon Mayo?wrote:?

If it hadn't been for injuries, d'Arnaud would be off this list. Despite missing time with a knee injury in 2012 and a broken foot in '13, he made his Major League debut in August. Traded twice for Cy Young Award winners, he is ready for a full-time gig in the big leagues. The 24-year-old has the chance to be an outstanding offensive player with the ability to hit for average and power. He's not a slouch behind the plate, either, with more than enough catch-and-throw skills to be an everyday player. All d'Arnaud needs is health, because he has the skill set to be one of the best all-around catchers in the National League.
Kevin Plawecki just missed the list, falling in the "Next Up" category, alongside Oakland prospect Max Stassi.

His comment, excerpted. He has a:

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At SBNation's Minorleagueball.com, John Sickels released his Mets Top 20 Monday evening.

Remember, Sickels looks very, very heavily at stats, and usually prefers upper level players.

His list:

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MiLB.com is out with their Mets organization All-Stars for 2013. As MiLB.com helpfully explains, this is not a best prospect list, but instead honors "the players - regardless of age or prospect status - who had the best seasons in their organizations."

MiLB.com has a quote from Paul dePodesta about each guy which makes the whole thing well worth reading.

So, for fun, lets compare MiLB.com's list to say, the best Mets' prospect at each position in my estimation.

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At MLB.com,?Jim Callis and Jon Mayo have their Top Prospect list up for the Arizona Fall League. Surprise! It contains no Mets. ?Jim Callis did not have any Mets' farmhands in his next five either.

This all makes sense. The Met farmhand from the AFL who deserves the most recognition, Jeurys Familia was 1. out of prospect eligibility from his time on the big league roster, and 2. gave up six runs in 8.1 innings in the AFL, despite averaging 96 mph on his fastball.

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At MLB.com (and its affiliates), Jon Mayo has his midseason updates to his Top Prospect Lists. He released a Top 100, a Top 20 by team and a Top 10 by position.

He placed Zack Wheeler at #8 overall, Noah Syndergaard at #14 and Travis d'Arnaud at #23. No other Mets made his Top 100.

Wheeler was #3 among RHP while Syndergaard was #5.

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I don't usually do a mid-season prospect ranking - things are indeed always changing. Ranking June's draftees is complicated.

Rob Catellano at Amazin Avenue is not scared. Instead he's out with his new Mets Top 25. It's a solid effort especially at the top. I might have my quibbles about the order of specific guys in the top 15, but no problem with the theory, or inclusion of any of those players.

Things break down from 16-25 however as there are a bunch of guys with no business near a top 25. The list feels, in that range, as though it was prepared before the start of the 2013 season. For example, he's far higher on Vaughn, den Dekker, Lara and Robles than I. Also, to be fair, the choices about who to rank in that range, becomes significantly less appealing.

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There are a pair of new comprehensive top prospect lists in baseball out this week from John Sickels at minorleagueball.com and Marc Hulet at Fangraphs.

Sickels puts three Mets in the top 22: C Travis d'Arnaud (#13), RHP Zack Wheeler (#15) and RHP Noah Syndergaard (#22) and two guys in the back half of his list: RHP Michael Fulmer (#86) and INF Wilmer Flores (118). Flores is ranked one spot behind Gavin Cecchini's brother Garin, a Red Sox farmhand.

Hulet flips the order of the top two Mets putting Wheeler at #9 and d'Arnaud at #11, differences that are essentially insignificat in the grand scheme of things. Bottom line, the two are top 15 prospects in baseball. Hulet is more reserved on Syndergaard, slotting him at #46, behind Kyle Crick. I saw Crick in 2012 - he's a big kid with a big arm - sorta like Syndergaard.

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Jason Parks and his prospect team at Baseball Prospectus came out with their annual Top 101 prospects list yesterday. And lookee there, but there are four Mets represented: RHP Zack Wheeler (5), C Travis d'Arnaud (15), RHP Noah Syndergaard (28) and RHP Michael Fulmer (98).

For kicks, lets compare BP's placement of Mets farmhands versus Baseball America's in their Top 100 released last week.

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Keith Law does an interesting ranking at ESPN insider today ranking rookies only by their potential 2013 impact. Obviously, playing time and opportunity play crucial factors in rankings like these. Law has Travis d'Arnaud ranked #16 among this group. d'Arnaud is nearly guaranteed a month of playing in AAA for a month to manage his service time to delay free agency by a year, and prove he's healthy.

Law's comment:

D'Arnaud's trouble staying healthy might be more of an obstacle than?John Buck, the Mets' expected starter behind the plate, although I also could see the Mets letting d'Arnaud get 200 to 250 plate appearances in Triple-A to work on his approach and make up for the time he missed last year.
By keeping d'Arnaud in Las Vegas through the middle of May, the Mets would be giving him something like 180 plate appearances in AAA, so 200-250 is hardly a bold prediction - although it seems awfully close to accurate.

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At ESPN.com, Keith Law has ranked all 30 Major League farm systems, slotting the Mets in at #14 - almost exactly middle of the pack. Law had the Cardinals #1 and the Angels #30.

His comment on the Mets:

The R.A. Dickey trade really boosted their system, and several Latin American arms had strong years in 2012 to bolster the system's total value. First-rounder Gavin Cecchini could move quickly for a prep kid, as he's pretty advanced for a teenager and doesn't have much blocking him at shortstop.
The Mets are the highest ranked NL East team. Law's rankings for the Mets other divisional brethren:

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Top Prospect Alert has their list of the top 150 prospects in baseball out. There are five Mets on there. Guess who? That's right, Zack Wheeler (#10), C Travis d'Arnaud (#25), RHP Noah Syndergaard (#44), SS Gavin Cecchini (#92), and OF Brandon Nimmo (#114).

The interesting thing here is that JP Schwartz has Cecchini so high, while I have Flores, Nimmo and a few arms in front of Cecchini. But hey, what fun would it be if we all agreed all the time?

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MLB.com has their list of the top 100 prospects in baseball up. ?The Mets placed two players in the top 10, and three in the top 100. MLB.com ranked C Travis d'Arnaud #6, RHP Zack Wheeler #8 and RHP Noah Syndergaard #29.

Jon Mayo, who writes the comments, has nice things to say about Syndergaard's secondary offerings.

His power curve has improved as he?s added velocity to it and it could be an above-average breaking ball in the future. He has a power changeup as well, which is still a work in progress, but could give him a third above-average offering. Despite his size, he has an easy delivery and he throws strikes. His combination of stuff, pitchability and aggressiveness on the mound point to a possible future as a frontline starter.
 

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Rob Castellano at Amazin' Avenue begins his prospect list today with numbers 41-50. It's digging deep, but there are three guys on his list, that I have in my Top 41. As he points out, it's really a big old muddle past 25 or so.

 

 

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John Sickels at minorleagueball.com has revised his Mets' Top 20 prospects to reflect the inclusion of Travis d'Arnaud and Noah Syndergaard who he places #1 and #3, with Zack Wheeler in between, just as I suggested over the weekend.

His list:

1. C Travis d'Arnaud

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At ESPN.com, Keith Law has his list of the top 100 prospects in baseball up. ?Two Mets made the cut, Zack Wheeler at #27 and Matt Harvery at #38. ?Jeurys Familia was in the next 10 to miss the list.

On Wheeler, Law wrote:

Wheeler was stolen from the Giants for two months of Carlos Beltran's services in a deadline deal that should benefit the Mets for much of this decade.

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Jon Mayo at MLB.com has his official Top 100 prospects in baseball up and this year, has three Mets on the list Zack Wheeler at #28, Matt Harvey at #38, and Jeurys Familia at #90.

On Wheeler, Mets VP of Scouting and Player Development Paul DePodesta said that of the three, he has the?"best wipeout stuff" and "if a hitter has two strikes, he's probably the most dangerous."

As for Familia and Harvey, their mental acumen stands out.

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Today, Baseball America unveiled its annual top 100 Prospect list.? The Mets organization has 3 representatives on this list.? Jenrry Mejia (#44), Wilmer Flores (#59), and a surprise with Cesar Puello (#77).

BA lists the best tool & overall grade for each prospect as well as their ETA to the big leagues.

Here are some other rankings list: ESPN by Keith Law (insider req), as well as AOL Fanhouse, and Project Prospect.

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Today, Project Prospect, posted their Top 100 prospect rankings. Six Mets prospects appeared on the list, starting with Reese Havens (42), Matt Harvey (48), Fernando Martinez (53), Jenrry Mejia (83), Brad Emaus (94), and Wilmer Flores (100).? Players are given grades rated on ceiling, floor, and risk.?? Washington Nationals prospect Bryce Harper ranks #1 overall.

Project Prospect differs slightly in their compiling of rankings.? They indicate they put a lot of value on a players floor as well as ceiling. They will be holding a chat for these rankings starting at around 9:30pm est, here.

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Today Jonathan Mayo, of MLB.com, put together his top 10 shortstop prospect list.? The Mets have a representative in Wilmer Flores, checking in at #6.? In 2010 between Savannah (Low-A) and St. Lucie (High-A), Flores hit .289/.333/.424, with 36 doubles, 11 homeruns, and 84 RBI. ? Here what Mayo has to say about Flores:

The Mets sent Flores to full-season ball in 2009, at age 17, and while he wasn't terrible, he didn't stand out. So they sent him back to the South Atlantic League to start the 2010 season and he earned a midseason promotion to the Class A Advanced Florida State League. His best tool is his bat and he started to show some of the extra-base pop he'll continue to grow into. He may not stay at shortstop long-term, but he might hit enough to be a fine third baseman.
Mayo's Top 10 SS Prospects

1. Manny Machado (BAL)

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Kevin Goldstein, of Baseball Prospectus, published his Top 11 Mets Prospects. Here is the list with a few notes from Goldstein:

1. Jenrry Mejia-His heater sits at 93-95 mph, touches 98, and features heavy, hard sink.2. Fernando Martinez-Martinez still shows star-level offensive potential. He's a good outfielder with an above-average arm.3. Wilmer Flores-Flores has big offensive potential. His bat speed ranks with anyone in the system.4. Ike Davis-Davis has classic first-base tools, with a good feel of the strike zone and plus to plus-plus raw power.5. Jon Niese-The most advanced pitching prospect in the system.6. Brad Holt-He fills the strike zone with a 91-94 heater that touches 96 mph when he reaches back for more.7. Kirk Nieuwenhuis-Nieuwenhuis is a big athlete with solid tools across the board.8. Josh Thole-Thole is a pure contact hitter who slaps balls to all fields, is especially difficult to strike out.9. Kyle Allen-He's long and projectable, and he flashed a solid slider and changeup at various times last year.10. Ruben Tejada-Tejada could be a second-division starting middle infielder or, at the very least, a nice utility player.11. Reese Havens-He could be a low-average second baseman who makes up for it with walks and power.

Goldstein also adds 4 more:

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Keith Law, of ESPN.com, has published his Top 100 prospect list. I believe the content is for paid insiders only, so I will give you the scouting reports on each of the Mets on the list.

Jenrry Mejia #23-Mejia entered 2009 with no experience above short-season leagues, but finished it in Double-A despite missing time in the middle of the year with a strained finger on his pitching hand. He has top-of-the-rotation stuff, but is just 20 with the command you'd expect to see in a live-armed teenager with barely 200 innings in pro ball. His fastball sits at 93-96 and will tick higher, and the ball sometimes shows natural cutting action toward left-handed hitters. His changeup is his best off-speed pitch and, at 85-87 mph with good tail, looks like a soft two-seamer. His curveball is very inconsistent, but at its best, it's plus with good two-plane break and depth in the upper 70s. He's thick but not tall, and his slot is just below 3/4 -- so he has to work on staying on top of the ball, and the finger injury reduced his already below-average command. That said, he's 20 and has shown he can get advanced hitters in Double-A out. If the Mets slow him down a little and let him spend all of 2010 (and maybe some of 2011) in the minors to improve his command and the consistency of his changeup and curve, they have a chance for a No. 1 or No. 2 starter.

Wilmer Flores #41-Flores, as predicted, broke with a full-season club in 2009 and held his own despite playing most of the year at 17. He has very quick wrists and is short to the ball with good finish. The ball flies off his bat, especially in BP, in which he shows the promise of future plus power, and in games he has already shown that he can square balls up against pitchers two or three years his senior. In fact, of players with at least 400 at-bats in the Sally League in 2009, only one hitter had fewer strikeouts than Flores did. His main deficiency as a player is very slow feet, even though he's not thickly built, and he has no shot to stay at shortstop and little shot of handling third base, which means he'll end up at first base or in an outfield corner, although there's an excellent chance his bat plays in any of those positions.

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We live in a sports world that is fascinated with listing things, and the listing of minor-league prospects is near the top of everyone's favorites. With the newest prospect list to surface Frank Piliere, of fanhouse.com, has listed his Top 100 Prospects. Mets prospects on Piliere's list include (with analysis):

Jennry Mejia (#23)-The Skinny: Mejia looks like of one of the most exciting pitching prospects the Mets have had in quite some time. He can reach the upper 90s with his fastball and has learned to pitch effectively and more frequently with his secondary pitches. The Mets will try to take it slow with this powerful young arm. We could see him in 2011.

Fernando Martinez (#33)-The Skinny: Martinez might be the victim of the high expectations of New York fans. It's easy to forget that he is still just 21 years old. Did the Mets rush him? Maybe. Martinez still has the offensive tools to be an impact-type player, so the word here is patience.

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Pat Andriola at the Hardball Times has written up a Mets Top-40 Prospects list.? It's very statistically based, but also very coherent with a top-20 that makes loads of sense.

His top 10 goes:

1. Martinez

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